1650 hydraulics

DLMKA

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I just bought a 1650 with 1610 loader. The loader is run off the remotes. The bucket tilt is run off the right remote and lift is off the left remote. The bucket tilt leaks down pretty fast, almost visibly with the tractor off and the bucket off the ground. Even when the engine is running I have to tilt the bucket back every so often. I thought it was just the cylinders. I've hooked up my Deere 1209 hay mower by disconnecting both of the lines to the bucket tilt on the RH remotes and everything operated fine with the single acting cylinder. Went to hook up a 13' wheel disc with single acting cylinder this morning and the tractor would NOT pick it up. I could hear the relief valve opening when trying to lift.

I'm going to switch the hoses around between remotes so lift is on right and tilt is on left remote to see if the leaking down is a function of the valve in the hydraulic system. I've not checked hydraulic pressure but it has plenty enough pressure for the loader to lift the front of the tractor up.

I have I&T manual and Operator manual on the way. I was really hoping to burn some fuel pulling the disc tonight though. Any suggestions on what could be the cause?

I'm going to borrow a flow meter from work and a couple 3000 psi gauges to check pressures and flows from remotes. Any other suggestions on what to check?
 
I have a 1550 Utility and a 1610 loader that does the exact same thing. It has been that way for years. We've grown accustomed to it. I'm really curious on what you find could be causing it... Maybe the
only difference between our setups is that our lift and tilt cylinders are double acting.

I don't have much information on it, but it was repaired back in the 70's and promptly started doing it again and we haven't ever bothered to do anything with it since. Don't know what was done then. Dad
always thought the bucket was too big for it, but the lift would seem to require more power and it never has had a problem settling.
 
(quoted from post at 14:38:54 10/21/15) I have a 1550 Utility and a 1610 loader that does the exact same thing. It has been that way for years. We've grown accustomed to it. I'm really curious on what you find could be causing it... Maybe the
only difference between our setups is that our lift and tilt cylinders are double acting.

I don't have much information on it, but it was repaired back in the 70's and promptly started doing it again and we haven't ever bothered to do anything with it since. Don't know what was done then. Dad
always thought the bucket was too big for it, but the lift would seem to require more power and it never has had a problem settling.

I have double acting loader cylinders but both implements I've hooked to the remotes have had single acting cylinders.
 
For single acting you need to open the bleed valve and the bypass valve. Bleed valve is the small set screw with locknut at the top of the housing. One on each side. Bypass valve is on the right side just above the housing flange. Looks like a hex head screw with a thin locknut. Back it out a couple but don't take it out. Use the ports with the restrictor valve. Op manual explains it.
 

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