1650 hydraulics

I have a 1650 gas with a Schwartz 1800 loader. For convenience this winter, I would like to put a a clamp-on bale spear on the bucket. Does this tractor have enough capacity to lift a bale of, say, 1800 lbs. or should I remove the bucket and buy a spear to mount on the loader? Thanks.

I lift 900-1000 pound round bales alright with this Worksaver BaleHand on my 1600.



Legal Disclaimer:

Actual crash results may vary.All research statistics are blatantly flagrant.All rights reserved. All sales final. Allow 4 to 6 weeks for delivery. Always drive on roads, not on people. Always wear your seatbelt.Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, is unintentional and purely coincidental.Apply brake before shifting.Article is provided "as is" without any warranties.
Avoid alcoholic beverages while using this product.Avoid contact with skin.Because some jurisdictions do not allow the exclusion or limitation of liability for consequential or incidental damages, the above limitations may not apply to you. Consult your physician before use. Demonstration by professional drivers on a closed course - please do not attempt. Discontinue use if rash develops.
Do not attempt. Do not drive with ball stuck on head.Do not induce vomiting (unless you want to...) Do not leave unattended.Do not try this at home.
Do not turn upside down.
Do not use while sleeping or unconscious. Don't coast downhill.
Don't try this in your living room; these are trained professionals.
Don't quote me on anything.
Enter at your own risk.

Fasten seat belt while seated.
For off-road use only.For outdoor use only.
For use by trained personnel only.Handle with care.Hard hat and safety goggles are required.
Height restrictions apply.
How's my driving? I am a non-attorney spokesperson.
In the event of fire, remain calm.
Individual results may vary.
Just say no. Keep away from fire or flames.Keep away from moisture, rain, snow, gloom of night, and so forth. No deposit, no return.
No kidding. No money down.
No other warranty expressed or implied. No purchase necessary. Not available in all states.

Not intended for use by liberals or children under the age of five.
Not liable for damages arising from use or misuse. Not responsible for acts of God. Not responsible for direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages resulting from any defect, error or failure to perform. Not responsible for typographical errors. Not responsible if you've fallen and can't get up.Not street legal in some states.
Now available without a prescription!Only at participating, local dealers.Other restrictions may apply.
Past performance no guarantee of future results.Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Please remain seated until the ride has come to a complete stop.Proceed with caution.Professional driver on closed track.Read label before using.Results not typical.
Seek shelter and cover head.
Should you need legal advice, please consult your lawyer. Sign here without admitting guilt.
Slightly higher west of the Mississippi. Slippery when wet. So remember, you've been warned! Some equipment shown is optional. Some humor and satire included.
Subject to approval.
The user takes full responsibility for everything and anything that could and/or does go wrong resulting in any kind or type of problem, difficulty, embarrassment, loss of money or goods or services or sleep or anything else whatsoever.
These documents do not reflect the thoughts or opinions of either myself, my company, my friends, or my rabbit.This is only to be used as an aid in planning.
This side up.This web site is not intended as legal advice.Use only as directed.Use only in a well-ventilated area.Use under adult supervision.User assumes full liabilities.Warning: All liability waived! Make your choices and take personal responsibility for the outcome of your experiment! Protect your privilege by not making the headlines or becoming a statistic.Watch for falling rock.You must be at least this tall to ride.You should have had a V-8.Your actual mileage will vary.Your results may vary.
Disclaimer does not cover misuse, accident, lightning, flood, tornado, tsunami, volcanic eruption, earthquake, hurricanes and other Acts of God, neglect, damage from improper or unauthorized repair, incorrect line voltage, broken antenna or marred cabinet, missing or altered serial numbers, electromagnetic radiation from nuclear blasts, sonic boom vibrations, customer adjustments that are not covered in this list, and incidents owing to airplane crash, ship sinking, motor vehicle accidents, dropping the item, falling rocks, leaky roof, broken glass, mud slides, forest fire, or projectile (which can include, but not be limited to, arrows, bullets, shot, BB's, shrapnel, lasers, napalm, torpedoes, or emissions of X-rays, Alpha, Beta and Gamma rays, knives, sticks and stones, et al.)
And, of course...
This supersedes any previous disclaimer

Thanks for the reply. What I'm concerned about is that the spear on the front edge of the bucket will have too much leverage for the hydraulics. Has anyone used a setup like this?

I've used two of those over the years on other people's tractors. One on a 4020,one on an IH 656. They scare me. I had a tire off the ground on the IH one time. If you're talking 1800 pounds,I share your concerns. It might depend some on the cylinders of the loader,but I think it would be a struggle.

I dont know about your Hyd, but you definately want to keep the weight to the back,as close as possible,I built a bale spear for my Quaker loader yrs ago if eventually started to rip that center support out of the bucket. I traded that for a Westendorf loader later on.

I'd be real concerned about the spindles on a 1650 too,with that much weight that far out front. I've broken two with that BaleHand.

Thanks for the advice. I decided to go with a Westendorf quick attach system and modify the bucket to accept it.