oliver 77 w/64 ford inline 6

Harryaroo · Jul 29, 2015

After some tinkering, I got my cobbled together 1952 Oliver 77 running. It has an engine from a 1964 Ford Falcon-- inline six 170ci. I feel pretty lucky that I got this running since the guy who sold it thought it was stuck and sold it as a parts machine. It will run my New Idea Cut/ditioner (6 ft) but not that great. From how it acts on different machines, I'm guessing that it has around 40-45 hp at the pto-- less than my Oliver 770 but more than a Farmall M. After buying a $200 used rear tire, I'm about $500 into this tractor. The pto and one set of remotes work.

My questions-- the 77 has a foot pedal rigged up. There is no governor-- The operator of this tractor has to hassle with the throttle quite a bit. Is there a way to add a governor to a car engine? Has anyone else messed around with a car engine in a tractor? How would someone put a car engine in a tractor and retain the live pto?

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Centerplate · Jul 29, 2015

There were belt drive governors on some older equipment. We have an old gas backhoe with one. My brother put a flathead ford in a Massey in high school and used a belt drive governor.

Your tractor might have the Oliver flywheel and/or hub to drive the PTO.

Post a picture of that tractor.

jmcarlic · Jul 30, 2015

There's some good suggestions for governors on this other site...
http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=266888&DisplayType=flat&setCookie=1

old · Jul 30, 2015

Neb test list has the 77 at 38HP and that is a strong 38HP by the way. I run a NH460 9 foot haybine behind my Oliver 77 and it plays with it but it also has the factory engine in it which is if I remember right bigger then that 170 ford

rrlund · Jul 30, 2015

A lot of combines had them back in the day. I have one hanging out here off a New Idea Uni System.

Tramway Guy · Jul 30, 2015

Most industrial engines had a Belt driven governor. I don't think anyone makes new ones. You might find an old velocity type somewhere that goes between carburetor and manifold. They weren't as accurate as mechanical.

You can get electronic ones, but that can get complicated.

Harryaroo · Jul 30, 2015

Thanks for the comments. I've contacted some combine salvage yards looking for a belt-driven governor. If anyone has one they would like to sell, I would be interested. The engine does have two open pulleys on the front.

I also have access to an engine from a 74 Duster-- slant 6-- and a 64 chevy c60-- I think that's a 283. I was thinking of putting together another machine-- The goal would be something with live pto around 50hp. Crazy?

bberry · Jul 31, 2015

A 283 would probably make more like 70-80 but have a decent torque curve. It be great for a wagon toter.

Harryaroo · Aug 1, 2015

I found a few sources of belt-driven governors. Anyone have a suggestion as to which one might best fit this application-- or maybe not too hard to make one of several to work? MF 510, 750, Gleaner...?

I haven't been able to take a picture of that tractor but will in a day or two...

rrlund · Aug 1, 2015

Massey 300 with a slant 6 used them. New Idea Uni did too. The 292 straight 6 and V6 GMC in the 701 and 702.

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