Oliver 44

Dave04285 · Sep 8, 2014

I know a guy that has an Oliver super 44 tractor, sitting in the woods next to a shed, and I was thinking about buying it off of him. I have google searched this tractor and apparently there was only 700 or so made from 1957-1958, but I need to know if this is true? If it is then it would mean it"s a pretty rare tractor, and I should try to acquire it for sure. Whenever I do an internet search of Oliver 44/super 44 it comes up with pictures that look exactly like the tractor he has. So I know it is that model, but I am not sure what it could be worth if it is rare. I will have to go back over there and look at it again and maybe take some pictures of it. From what I remember, it is in pretty rough shape so I need to figure out if it would be worth restoring first. What I have read so far online is that the Oliver 44 had a continental 4cyl engine, 140ci and a 4 speed transmission. And that it was similar to the 440. Does anyone else know much about this tractor?

Thanks, Eric

old · Sep 8, 2014

I would not call it rare but yes it is a less common tractor. It is one if I could find I would buy just because I like the look of it and it being an Oliver

Josh in Pa · Sep 8, 2014

It is rare, and worth getting. Restored ones can bring over $20k, and a field ready original probably $10k. There were no 44's, they started with the super 44. I don't know much about them, but some google searching should turn up some auction results. It would definitely be worth getting if you are able to.
Josh

Dave04285 · Sep 8, 2014

That's what I was thinking, I saw that on Utube, Machinery Pete showed one going for 22,000 just last week in South Dakota, but it was in immaculate condition and looked professionally restored. Plus I think some of those auctions have unusually high prices, but I think it may be worth quite a bit if restored though. Just don't know how much it would cost to get it fixed up nicely. I'll have to go over there and take some pictures and post them. The guy that has it is my landlord and lives down the road from me.

Dave04285 · Sep 8, 2014

It kind of reminds me of a farmall cub or farmall A. I think they call the set up "cultivision". It would make a nice little tractor, but I'll have to see if there are any missing parts. From what I remember, it is in pretty rough shape. I'm not sure if he will sell it, but I am going to find out.

old · Sep 8, 2014

Ya it was pretty much Oliver's Cub and was about the same HP and size as the cub. My info say they where made from 1957 to 1959 starting with 1002 being the first serial number for 57 and then in 59 the first for the year was 7121 so if they did not skip any numbers that was well over 7K of them made so not a rare one

jpsepp · Sep 8, 2014

tractor data has 775 built.

Dave04285 · Sep 8, 2014

That I think is the same site I saw that said 775. I need to go look at the serial number on this thing and try to determine what year it is.

Dave04285 · Sep 8, 2014

I'll have to look at the serial number on this tractor to figure out what year it is. But that information helps a lot, thanks.

rrlund · Sep 8, 2014

Do you have any idea how many of us on this site would have had that tractor out of there and in our shop so fast we would have left skid marks?!
You've found the Holy Grail that we all only dream about finding.

SPMN · Sep 8, 2014

Look at this Ebay listing for a 440
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321296888511?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

It will give you an idea of what it would be worth---It's just my personal opinion, but I like the Super 44 better because of the color combination---As RRLUND says, it's the Holy Grail of Olivers---HTH

Brown Swiss · Sep 8, 2014

You might want to be careful how you go about it, my neighbor and my dad do not like people coming around asking about buying stuff when it was not advertized. Makes them both beachy for a while. Tom

BMD · Sep 8, 2014

Oliver Super 44s and 440s were Oliver's answer to the Farmall Rowcrop Super A- 100-130-140 lineup. They were powered by a Continental 4 cylinder 140 CI gas engine. About 25+ HP.

It was big advantage was it had factory 3 pt hitch.

Where I'm located, in formally big time tobacco country row crop tractors were used very heavily by the tobacco farmers. Mostly Farmalls and the offset Fords and Olivers, even John Deere had one, 900HC I think.

I have bought parts from time to time from guy that has that Oliver on eBay and I think he has 6 S44s or 440s or so last time I stopped in to get a used red tractor part. His website, I think has the pictures.

Unfortunately and sadly since they have become so collectible you never ever see one around here anymore come up for auction. Back years ago saw one complete with cultivators go for just under $2000, had not run in couple years or so they said at the auction (they always say that around here). Don't think I'll ever see that again. If so, I'll change colors or go red green. Thats what happens we you a day late and a dollar short.

Dave04285 · Sep 9, 2014

Wow. I didn't know how sought after it was. I heard some recently have brought over 20 grand at auction. But this thing is in pretty rough shape from what I remember. I am pretty sure the engine is stuck too.

Dave04285 · Sep 9, 2014

What is his website? I have seen his 440 on eBay the past few days. Would like to see more pics of these things because I am limited to what comes up in a google search.

Thanks, Eric

Dave04285 · Sep 9, 2014

I know him real good. Was over there this past weekend borrowing the mower. But I know what you mean, I'll have to wait til this weekend when he gets back in town from working and go over there and talk to him. I didn't want to just go over and snoop around this week looking at the tractor.

Eric

rrlund · Sep 9, 2014

If it was just a grease stain from a Super 44 a serious collector would make a nice collector tractor out of it.

BMD · Sep 9, 2014

He's down in north central NC. It is burchstoretractors.com (hope posting link are legal on site, if not please delete link).

Mostly Farmall and rowcrop stuff but Oliver stuff was posted under "the yard".

Dave04285 · Sep 9, 2014

Thanks, I was just looking on the site. Hes got quite the collection. I book marked the site for down the road if I do get this thing I can call him about parts. Looks like it might be mostly him on eBay selling 44/440 parts because I could not find really too many parts on eBay when I looked.

BMD · Sep 9, 2014

You are correct.
The common interchangeable parts are usually readily available. Engine, gages,electrical items but parts specific to the Oliver Super 44 and 440 (sheet metal,etc) probably are very hard to come by unless someone is reproducing them.

Dave04285 · Sep 9, 2014

Would the starter be interchangeable with another tractor? I'm not sure if this one still has the starter that's why I ask.

oleclint · Sep 9, 2014

We have had our Super 44 for 39 years. Yes it is an uncommon tractor. after lots of research many yrs.ago in company records, We found that there were 700 & some Super 44 s built. There were a few less of the 440 s built.
Our 44 was built in South Bend Ind. IIRC, the 440 s were built in Charles City. Our 44 was shipped to the Saint Louis, Mo. branch. From there to a dealer in northwest ill.
Our tractor never had any hydraulics, so no 3pt.
There is very little difference between to two models. The latter 44 s & 440 s had a "stop' for the frt. axel tilt, a very important item too.
Hope this helps. clint

Eric The Red · Sep 9, 2014

Old you can not do that with the serial numbers as oliver used the serial numbers accross all the tractors and they were numbered as they came down the line. It is not as simple as taking the last number you see for a year on a tractor and then taking the first and subtracting it. You have to look at all the build cards.

rrlund · Sep 9, 2014

That's mostly true,but it only applied to the Charles City tractors. The Super 44s were South Bend and had their own 4 digit numbers. The 440s were built in Charles City and those serial numbers were lumped in with all the other models.

old · Sep 9, 2014

That is why i said IF THEY DID NOT SKIP

Dave04285 · Sep 10, 2014

Ok, I got a pretty good look at this tractor today. Overall it's in better shape than I thought. However, the engine I know is locked up because it does not have a cap on the exhaust, and I know it has been sitting outside for about 10 years now. The sheet metal is pretty good, and has some original paint on it, although it is faded badly. It has what looks like a factory 3pt hitch, and has some parts to a belly cultivator attached to the frame, but no cultivator. The starter and generator are there but no battery box. The lights are still there too. The front right rim is off of a trailer or something and is not the right one for the tractor.

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