Oliver 1465 - how many were made?

Cliffs · May 19, 2014

Can anybody tell me how many Oliver 1465 tractors were made?

J.T.L. · May 20, 2014

My book says 12,304. --- John

Anonymous-0 · May 20, 2014

As in Fiat or as in Oliver? I think you have one too many numbers for the number of Oliver & Cockshutt.

thepartsman · May 20, 2014

The US retail sales in 1973 for 1465 tractors was only 81. There was only 1399 total Oliver Fiat models sold in 1973. I don't have any figures for 1974 or 1975.

Cliffs · May 20, 2014

(reply to post at 17:30:01 05/20/14)

It is definitely an Oliver 1465, it is very similar to a Fiat 750 and an Oliver 1470.

Cliffs · May 20, 2014

(quoted from post at 01:59:05 05/21/14) The US retail sales in 1973 for 1465 tractors was only 81. There was only 1399 total Oliver Fiat models sold in 1973. I don't have any figures for 1974 or 1975.

Thanks! My Oliver 1465 is serial number 831594 so I think it is a 1974 or 1975. I found out at one point but don't remember.

Cliffs · May 20, 2014

(quoted from post at 16:58:13 05/20/14) My book says 12,304. --- John

What book is that? I'm trying to find out as much as possible about the Oliver 1465. I'm restoring one from the ground up. Found all the parts so far but it has been a bit of a struggle. the seat was the only exception, had to adapt for an aftermarket seat.

Cliffs · May 20, 2014

(quoted from post at 17:30:01 05/20/14) As in Fiat or as in Oliver? I think you have one too many numbers for the number of Oliver & Cockshutt.

Mostly Fiat parts for sure but definitely an Oliver 1465.

Have any idea why this model wasn't a good seller? Is it a poorly designed model? I have 2 John Deere tractors but I have never owned an Oliver and I really don't know much about them.

Cliffs · May 20, 2014

(quoted from post at 16:58:13 05/20/14) My book says 12,304. --- John

I just found the following serial numbers at tractordata.com :

1973: 827183
1974: 827580
1975: 839424
Final: 839487

Is subtracting the 1973 number from the final number a reliable way of knowing how many were made? That would be 12,304 like you said. My serial number 831594 Oliver 1465 is a 1974. That doesn't seem like a lot of sales and they only made this model for 3 years. I would really like to know why.

mab570diesel · May 20, 2014

(quoted from post at 03:10:58 05/21/14)

(quoted from post at 17:30:01 05/20/14) As in Fiat or as in Oliver? I think you have one too many numbers for the number of Oliver & Cockshutt.

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Mostly Fiat parts for sure but definitely an Oliver 1465.

Have any idea why this model wasn't a good seller? Is it a poorly designed model? I have 2 John Deere tractors but I have never owned an Oliver and I really don't know much about them.

liff,It's actually all fiat parts.I'm sure you know but that is a fiat tractor made for oliver. import tractor parts has lots of good info on them.Just be glad you didn't get a 1450!

Cliffs · May 20, 2014

Mostly Fiat parts for sure but definitely an Oliver 1465.

It's actually all fiat parts.I'm sure you know but that is a fiat tractor made for oliver. import tractor parts has lots of good info on them.Just be glad you didn't get a 1450!

I thought it was all Fiat parts until a few people told me while I was shopping for parts that some parts are not Fiat. I suspect that Fiat used a few other parts when they built the tractor. I am learning as I go about Oliver tractors. I ended up with this model without doing much research in advance so I have been lucky to find all the parts. This tractor will have lots of new parts from top to bottom so I hope it will be worth what I have in it. I bought it to use but knowing that I can get what I have in it would be nice.

J.Wondergem · May 21, 2014

(quoted from post at 23:07:57 05/20/14) Mostly Fiat parts for sure but definitely an Oliver 1465.

It's actually all fiat parts.I'm sure you know but that is a fiat tractor made for oliver. import tractor parts has lots of good info on them.Just be glad you didn't get a 1450!

I thought it was all Fiat parts until a few people told me while I was shopping for parts that some parts are not Fiat. I suspect that Fiat used a few other parts when they built the tractor. I am learning as I go about Oliver tractors. I ended up with this model without doing much research in advance so I have been lucky to find all the parts. This tractor will have lots of new parts from top to bottom so I hope it will be worth what I have in it. I bought it to use but knowing that I can get what I have in it would be nice.

If you can get what you have in it, back out of it, your more lucky than the most of us.

rrlund · May 21, 2014

Go to this site. You'll see that they're basically an "improved" 1450. Not near as popular or as good a tractor as a 1265 or 1365. I hope you don't hold this thing against Oliver.
Import tractor list

Eric The Red · May 21, 2014

You can not look at the serial number range on Oliver's and just subtract as this will give you an incorrect number. They used the serial numbers across all models as they were assigned. This is a common mistake made in that people look at the first one made for the year and the first one for the next and assume that they can just subtract these when they can not do this. To get a true number you have to go through all the build cards.

Cliffs · May 22, 2014

(quoted from post at 17:55:59 05/21/14) Go to this site. You'll see that they're basically an "improved" 1450. Not near as popular or as good a tractor as a 1265 or 1365. I hope you don't hold this thing against Oliver.
Import tractor list

Yes, but a substantially improved 1450 with more horsepower. The 1465 now has a very reliable engine. All of the problems with the 1450 were solved with the 1465. What makes the 1265 or the 1365 better?

Cliffs · May 22, 2014

(quoted from post at 02:46:22 05/22/14) You can not look at the serial number range on Oliver's and just subtract as this will give you an incorrect number. They used the serial numbers across all models as they were assigned. This is a common mistake made in that people look at the first one made for the year and the first one for the next and assume that they can just subtract these when they can not do this. To get a true number you have to go through all the build cards.

How does one see the build cards to get a true number?

rrlund · May 22, 2014

I never had a 14 series,but I think just the fact that they were a totally different tractor,not just an upgrade.

Eric The Red · May 22, 2014

You can not subtract the serial number range and
just a guess but I bet that they only made a couple
thousand of these at the most.

mab570diesel · May 23, 2014

(quoted from post at 16:34:11 05/22/14)

(quoted from post at 17:55:59 05/21/14) Go to this site. You'll see that they're basically an "improved" 1450. Not near as popular or as good a tractor as a 1265 or 1365. I hope you don't hold this thing against Oliver.
Import tractor list

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Yes, but a substantially improved 1450 with more horsepower. The 1465 now has a very reliable engine. All of the problems with the 1450 were solved with the 1465. What makes the 1265 or the 1365 better?

I'm still quite puzzled to the it's not all fiat thing. No tractor is completely all manufacturer parts,many tractors run different,not fiat, injection,hydraulic,P.S. pumps, etc.I don't think you got the point that it is a fiat tractor regardless of what other parts it may have on it!FAIR tractors and MOST parts available(partial quote from I.T.P.). All problems solved with any tractor are rare, if non existent.Good luck with your 1465. I like them but, they are not a world beater by no means.1365 much better,not trying to beat you up just the facts.

Cliffs · May 23, 2014

(quoted from post at 07:54:07 05/23/14)

(quoted from post at 16:34:11 05/22/14)

(quoted from post at 17:55:59 05/21/14) Go to this site. You'll see that they're basically an "improved" 1450. Not near as popular or as good a tractor as a 1265 or 1365. I hope you don't hold this thing against Oliver.
Import tractor list

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Yes, but a substantially improved 1450 with more horsepower. The 1465 now has a very reliable engine. All of the problems with the 1450 were solved with the 1465. What makes the 1265 or the 1365 better?

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I'm still quite puzzled to the it's not all fiat thing. No tractor is completely all manufacturer parts,many tractors run different,not fiat, injection,hydraulic,P.S. pumps, etc.I don't think you got the point that it is a fiat tractor regardless of what other parts it may have on it!FAIR tractors and MOST parts available(partial quote from I.T.P.). All problems solved with any tractor are rare, if non existent.Good luck with your 1465. I like them but, they are not a world beater by no means.1365 much better,not trying to beat you up just the facts.

I understand that the 1465 is a Fiat tractor regardless of some other parts. ITP rated the 1465 as a neutral not a fair but can one bank on the opinion of ITP? At least a lot of the problems were solved that the 1450 had and the 1465 doesn't have any chronic problems that I have seen mentioned and it has more horsepower. It will fit my needs and it's been a fun winter project. What makes the 1365 much better in your opinion?

mab570diesel · May 23, 2014

can you bank on I.T.P. opinion? IMHO yes the guy is considered an expert on these fiats.As far as 1365 to 1465 comparison I don't think i can explain it any better than I.T.P. sorry for being redundant.I'm not trying to bash your tractor if it works good for you that's all that counts.if I put a bunch of money in my 1365 I know I'm not going to turn around and sell it and get my money back they are only worth so much no matter how much money you put in it.Hope it gives you many years of good service.

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