Cockshutt 1650

Leabarr · Jan 11, 2014

Can someone tell me what six cyl diesel these tractors had and what kind of problems they had. I am going to look at a1650 that appearantly has some kind of engine problem
If the engine was toast any idea of value, it does have a FEL
Thanks

G1355 · Jan 11, 2014

I don't know about the 50 series they should both be a Waukesha motor, but I've heard numerous 55 series Oliver's like to throw rods out the sides of the block, I watched one 1755 at a plow day right after the guy restored it and my cousin had a 1955 do the same thing a few years back. Some people like them some don't.

rrrepair · Jan 11, 2014

They will have the 283 waukesha engine if it is a diesel. if the engine is down and you want a more efficient and better starting engine i suggest you install a cummins. i do these all the time and makes them basically an american white 80. parts for the 283 are getting harder to come by, I am currently working on a 1655 with same engine, and the head gasket set was over $300 dollars. If your interested in learning more about a cummins, call me 563 382 4530 ask for ron

mab570diesel · Jan 11, 2014

ditto g1355

Tramway Guy · Jan 11, 2014

There were two different versions of 1650 diesel 283 CID engines. Early ones used indirect injection while later ones were direct.
The 283 was a very sound engine, in my opinion.

Most of the problem engines were the 310 CID turboed version used in 1950-T, 1855, and 1955 tractors.

jasinpa · Jan 11, 2014

the 283 was a great engine w/ dirrect injecton , & yes the 310 in the bigger tractors has issues , but if it was overhauled properly there great engine too , most problems where fixed , rod bolts , rist pin bushings , and the bad cranks have already broke and junked , as far as the cummins transplant the 6bt is the best little engine around , but everyone says youll spend 10 grand or more to make it happen , i love my oliver tractors but get real very few are worth that , ill buy a Deere befor i spend that much , and befor you linch me for that D word , there not top on my list

Leabarr · Jan 11, 2014

This tractor is about 200miles from me but I am going to look at it next week, is there anything in particular that I should be watching for?

Donald Lehman · Jan 12, 2014

Decent hydraulics, about as good as anything of the era and better than most, decent power steering. Mechanical brakes which worked about as good as any other tractor of that era with mechanical brakes. Taking the brakes apart once in a while and deglazing the pads and cleaning and lubing the expansion balls makes for a good working brake. The hydra-power 2 speed or the hydrual-shift 3 speed were very reliable. Changing from 540 pto to 1,000 pto is a simple matter. The 283 cui. engine was one of the best engines Oliver used. A 1650 with 18.4 x34 tires will weigh as much as a JD 4020, which is to say a tad over 10,000 lb. If you buy it and rebuild it, you'll be happy with it. If you do rebuild it, make sure the cooling system is 100%. If you boil the motor, you WILL warp the head. The 1650 was far and away the best 70hp. tratcor made in that time period. I've never seen a 1650 turn less than 76 hp. on a dyno and some turned right around 80 hp. Cold starting was better than some, not as good as others. if you ever have to replace the starter put the higher rpm 1955 starter on it. Makes a big difference.

rrlund · Jan 12, 2014

I wouldn't worry about it throwing a rod. The 310 were the ones that were famous for that. Those engines did have a problem with wrist pins knocking all the way back to the 77s and 88s though. If it's just an "engine problem",could be that the O-rings on the wet sleeves are leaking coolant in to the oil.

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