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02-16-2013 18:36:47

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Do you have any documentation that says Oliver was first? I don't even have a dog in the fight, but I think MM was first.

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Alan K

02-17-2013 08:32:28

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 Re: oliver 4wd in reply to Dalet, 02-16-2013 18:36:47  

The first MM tractor that was equipped with front wheel drive from the factory was on a 5 Star in 1959, as show in the picture, but to my knowledge they werent ever put into production as MM was changing model designations. In 1960 the M5 models came out and shortly there after the M504 with front wheel drive, as well as the G704 with front wheel drive. To me the G704 is technically a wheatland model but the M504 could be used for row crop farming. Oliver had the most clearance under the front axle with the hydraulic drive units on them.

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J. Schwiebert

02-17-2013 08:41:19

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 Re: oliver 4wd in reply to Alan K, 02-17-2013 08:32:28  
Good information there. The prototype Oliver 1800 and 1900 FWA were built in 1961. A few A series 1800 & 1900 tractors with front wheel assist were built in 1962. Who manufactued the axle on the Moline and did Elwood do the rest of it?

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Alan K

02-17-2013 08:53:07

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 Re: oliver 4wd in reply to J. Schwiebert, 02-17-2013 08:41:19  
As far as I know the front axles that MM used were the Elwood and Coleman ones on various models. From what I have heard they did also install one on a 4 Star MM sometime in 1959-61 which also wasnt put into production. Im guessing the thinking at that time being why do you need front wheel drive on a 45hp tractor? And now is hard to find one without it.

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J. Schwiebert

02-17-2013 09:54:25

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 Re: oliver 4wd in reply to Alan K, 02-17-2013 08:53:07  
O. K. Elwood I don't think made the axle, Elwood made some front ends for IH as well later on. I know they used a Spicer(Dana) as we had a farmer come see us looking for a part quick like. So which manufacture did Elwood use for Moline? How can I contact you?

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Alan K

02-17-2013 12:56:29

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 Re: oliver 4wd in reply to J. Schwiebert, 02-17-2013 09:54:25  
That Im not sure. I dont know the specifics on them.

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