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David R Inman 08-05-2012 09:54:54 174.39.213.129 Report to Moderator	Attached are photos of the no Sn. Oliver. [Reply]   [No Email]
theothergreen 08-05-2012 12:54:10 12.148.65.2 Report to Moderator	Re: No Sn. Olver in reply to David R Inman, 08-05-2012 09:54:54   It is not a super, a super has flat areas above the pipe holes on each side of the frame and a flat area on the front. All of the flat areas have threaded holes. This change was made to the supers to allow the mounting of the new style cultivator. I would say that your tractor was a late model since it has disc brakes. [Reply]  [No Email]
thompson mike 08-05-2012 11:23:18 75.104.167.110 Report to Moderator	Re: No Sn. Olver in reply to David R Inman, 08-05-2012 09:54:54   Looks like a 77 to me. Typical California cultivator tractor. Are you in California, looks a bit like the dez. [Reply]  [No Email]
David R Inman 08-05-2012 11:37:15 98.135.46.49 Report to Moderator	Re: No Sn. Olver in reply to thompson mike, 08-05-2012 11:23:18   Close, Arizona, Phoenix area. [Reply]  [No Email]
J. Schwiebert 08-05-2012 11:42:12 209.143.54.250 Report to Moderator	Re: No Sn. Olver in reply to David R Inman, 08-05-2012 11:37:15   Which way frpm Phoenix? The tractor has disk brakes. Take the thermostat housing off and there will be a date stamped in that area when the head was machined. It is later than july or August of 52.It is a Fleetline 77. [Reply]  [No Email]
David R Inman 08-06-2012 12:33:16 174.39.145.182 Report to Moderator	Re: No Sn. Olver in reply to J. Schwiebert, 08-05-2012 11:42:12   The previous Owner had already removed the valve cover and thermostat housing, so I was able to look at the head today. It is stamped with a large 2 under the valve cover gasket, and 1953 smaller after, and then an unrecognizable character, possibly an M, or a 3. So, Feb of 1953? [Reply]  [No Email]
rrlund 08-05-2012 12:37:48 207.241.137.116 Report to Moderator	Re: No Sn. Olver in reply to J. Schwiebert, 08-05-2012 11:42:12   Just wonder how you date it to July or August 52 John? The first one serial numbered as a 52 had disc brakes. Later 51 88s had disc brakes,mid 52 on,66s had disc brakes. Is there some other way to tell? As far as the posters question how to tell a Fleetline from a Super,no flat mounting pads on the frame. Definately a later 77 though,can tell it's a 77 not an 88 by the grille. [Reply]  [No Email]
David R Inman 08-05-2012 11:48:07 98.135.46.32 Report to Moderator	Re: No Sn. Olver in reply to J. Schwiebert, 08-05-2012 11:42:12   West. Nearest city is Surprise. Thanks for the info on where to find a secondary identification. [Reply]  [No Email]
theothergreen 08-05-2012 10:24:13 12.148.65.2 Report to Moderator	Re: No Sn. Olver in reply to David R Inman, 08-05-2012 09:54:54   If you are wanting to know what it is, It looks like A 1949 to1953 model 77. The grill does't look wide enough and the rear tires don't look wide enough to be a 88 . The engine looks like a 6 cylinder, if it is a 4 cylinder. then it would be a 66. I'am not sure but I think that they started making the supper series in 1954. I do know my dad purchased the first Supper 55 that our dealer got in and that was in 1954. It is newer than a 1951 because my 1951 has the serial # tag on the tranny housing on the right side in front of the brake housing [Reply]  [No Email]
David R Inman 08-05-2012 11:46:11 98.135.46.32 Report to Moderator	Re: No Sn. Olver in reply to theothergreen, 08-05-2012 10:24:13   Yeah, I was kind of looking for an Id on it, but I didn't give much info, as I had already done so in a post lower on the page. Yes, 6 cyl, 13.6-38. General consensus is its a 77, but how/what defines a 77 from a Super 77? (this one has the block castings:185220 and M100; head M1800) Also, did the engine have a serial number? [Reply]  [No Email]