Question for those with vertical exhaust on 8n?

kev518n

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How do you like it? Any instalation issues? Is it high enough that is doesnt blow back in your face when driving the tractor?
 
(quoted from post at 09:21:43 01/05/17) How do you like it? Any instalation issues? Is it high enough that is doesnt blow back in your face when driving the tractor?

I like it. No fumes in your face hooking stuff up.

High enough to not blow anything at all on you. Add a rain flapper and point it to the front.

Only downside is that you'll get black unburnt fuel specs all over the hood starting with some choke. Carbon, condensation wipe right off.

Watch out for low tree limbs. Don't plan on going back.

You will have to remove a head bolt for the brace. Just drain some coolant first. Or bolt it to the hood.
 
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I installed an upright exhaust on my tractor after my second field fire while pulling my one row corn picker, each time I stopped for whatever reason, the hot under belly muffler would catch the dry corn fodder on fire,

I no longer use the old picker,

after installing the upright muffler and hitting a few low branches when rotary cutting around the ditch banks, fence rows and under the fruit trees

the back corner of the exhaust manifold broke off, had to replace it, so I when back to under belly muffler,

much happier, less noise and can cut under the trees much better,
now only have to worry about limbs knocking off my old hat, cap and cutting it up,

replacing the manifold was a pain for me, ,
 
Mine had a vertical on it when I bought it. I changed to an under-belly after my first season with it, as I stunk every time I used the tractor. I can put up with a little exhaust while hooking up implements vs. soaking in it for hours at a time.

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dean, mine had one when i got it. one of the first changes i made to the 2N was to get rid of it. between stuff overhead and stuff close to the side, the vertical exhaust couldn't wait to cause a problem.

i've been happy with the normal (?) low exhaust. haven't torn it off, haven't started a fire with it. i pretty much just use the N as a lawn mower. i hook my finish mower up in the spring and it stays hooked up till the end of mowing season. i attach the mower with the tractor shut off, and so the fumes while changing implements is a non-issue for me, and i don't miss breathing the exhaust while mowing.
 

ps: forgot to add that at least in my case, i was amazed at how small of a branch could cause trouble. more than once before i made the change, i'd see something coming and think no problem, that's too small to be an issue - followed by me swearing when i found out i was wrong about the too small thing.
 

and after a video review initiated by the booth, i see i should have addressed myself to kev, not dean :oops:

the call on the field is overturned :)
 
Our 661 came with a vertical exhaust,
was immediately apparent that it wasn't
going to work for brushogging, I cut it
off about 6 inches above the hood and
mitered it so exhaust blew to the side
and up, never an issue of smell etc that
I noticed. When setting up our 650
tractor for plowing I didn't want
exhaust under the cab so just made it go
out the side and no problems, if you
look in the picture you can see it going
to the side just behind the plow lift
frame.
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Looks like mixed reviews on it. Really dont drive under limbs much but i do take it through the woods. i was more worried about the smell blowing back more than clearance.
 
I don't have a vertical on my N's but I do on one of my Jubilees
and on my 960. They are louder than the underslung and when
I shut them down moisture condensates in the muffler so when
I start them they tend to "rain" on me for a minute or so.

No real preference either way, simply my experiences.
The 960 was that way when I got it and could be changed.
But I haven't bothered to spend the time or money.
This particular Jubilee has a loader on it that doesn't have
enough clearance for an underslung exhaust so it stays vertical.
 
(quoted from post at 09:21:43 01/05/17) How do you like it? Any instalation issues? Is it high enough that is doesnt blow back in your face when driving the tractor?

my 8n had a vertical exhaust when i purchased it. i also have a 730 loader on it. i've never noticed exhaust smell while operating it, but it does put out a bit of carbon and water vapor for a few moments when first starting up.

i suspect the vertical stack makes using my hydraulic wood splitter more tolerable, as in that case, the exhaust would be aimed right where i stand to operate the lever.

the stack has no muffler, either, but i don't find the noise to be excessive, plus i usually operate the 8n wearing hearing protection, anyway.

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wally
 
(quoted from post at 19:49:10 01/05/17) Looks like mixed reviews on it. Really dont drive under limbs much but i do take it through the woods. i was more worried about the smell blowing back more than clearance.

I spend a lot of time in the woods and I have torn the 8N under axle muffler off on ground obstructions way more times than I have torn the Kubota's vertical one off on a limb. Pick your poison - I much prefer vertical.

TOH
 
(quoted from post at 18:53:33 01/05/17) i like the tire chains.

i do, too. double ring chains. they work excellent in conjunction with the loaded tires and the loader. my driveway is a sheet of ice this year, but i've had zero problem pushing snow and piling it up. the fact that the loader has downpressure and the bucket is power dump/roll allows me to get unstuck if i get too far into a snowbank (use the bucket & loader to push the tractor backwards, and let the traction do the rest.

wally
 
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(quoted from post at 18:53:33 01/05/17) i like the tire chains.

i do, too. double ring chains. they work excellent in conjunction with the loaded tires and the loader. my driveway is a sheet of ice this year, but i've had zero problem pushing snow and piling it up. the fact that the loader has downpressure and the bucket is power dump/roll allows me to get unstuck if i get too far into a snowbank (use the bucket & loader to push the tractor backwards, and let the traction do the rest.

wally
hat size tires you running?
 
One of the first things I did to my tractor
was convert it to horizontal.
Better to smell that exhaust for a few
minutes while you're hooking up an implement
than all the time with a vertical muffler.
Another thing is the noise. Better behind
you than in front.
My bigger tractor has vertical exh. but I
dont run that one in the woods at all so
will leave that one as is.
 
one of the complaints with the down swept exhaust system on the small Ford/Ferguson tractors was excess heat generated from the muffler, it would burn the bottom of your right foot.

I have seen pictures of this option: back in the day they made an option that solved this problem, I guess, it bolted to the muffler or when around it someway,
Down swept exhaust silencer heat shield.

I have never seen one, appears to me it would catch even more loose dry grass and be a sure enough fire starter, might work plowing disking or cultivating.

I bet the first time it had grass caught in it or got bent up against the muffler, it was taken off and thrown onto the scrap metal pile.
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interesting, wellmax. i had not heard of the heat shield. that said, the concerns u list make sense to me. sooooo, i think i'll just stick with my diamondplate running boards :)
 
One of the first things I did to my tractor
was convert it to horizontal.

I had a tree limb convert my 3000's vertical muffler to horizontal and a stump convert my 8N horizontal muffler to diagonal :shock:


I did not like the vertical muffler on the 3000 . I know I should be able to look around it but it just seemed to be blocking my view if that makes sense . The 3000 was easy enough to build a muffler that turned 90 out of the hood and shoot forward with a elbow to the side after the muffler . I rebuilt the vertical pipe and can swap them out but doubt I will .


I bought a vertical exhaust for the N and it was neat , mainly because it was not the norm , but it is a flimsy set up and not very practical around here . Watching the flapper is pretty high on the cool scale . 8)
 

[b:c06453ff72]"Watching the flapper is pretty high on the cool scale . 8) "[/b:c06453ff72]

:lol: good point. i just need to fire up the WD for that now :)
 
When I was a kid I saw old farmers take a piece of 1" board and bolt it to the top of the right side foot plate or step to keep the heat off the
bottom of their work shoe,

However they were plowing at full throttle for 10+ hours a day, not just playing around for an hour or so like i do in my garden,
 
i put one on my jubilee last summer, took it back off the next month, like mentioned it blows black stuff all over you at fire up, my tractor is a working tractor and that means working in the orchard, and around other trees, its always in the way , jubilees dont have the hot foot problem, the muffler is up under the hood, the only complaint about fumes from a under-slung exhaust came from a lady on her first tractor ride, which didnt bother me, some people should stay in the city . my big tractors do have factory vertical stacks on them, never had a problem after i turned the top stack to the front, but these units dont work in the orchard
 
I have one of each. The one I used for mowing and tree limbs were a concern. They other got used on a rake and fire was a concern. When the wind is right and I'm traveling in 4th I get a little exhaust in my face but I sit a little higher than most at 6'5".

Rick
 

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