What's that knockin' darned oil pickup tube

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So I knew that the problem with the oil tube interference with a rod bolt was a common problem. When I had my 8N engine apart I looked and sure enough a notch had been worn in the tube. Was not too bad and I put a hose clamp over it just in case it contacted again. Turns out that was a good idea.

I had carefully bent the tube a bit too make sure I had clearance, and I had measured the clearance to the pan but obviously not accurately enough.

After I got the engine back together I had a noticeable knock. Very hard to isolate, but I could feel it with a finger on the side of the block or if I grabbed the governor housing.

Hard to imagine that was just the tube hitting, but I removed the oil drain plug and while holding the pickup and cranking the motor I could feel a [u:4be182bccc]very slight [/u:4be182bccc]movement once per rotation.

Trimmed about 1/8" off the pickup shroud and it shifted down just enough to clear the rod bolt. Now smooth and quiet.

So, my point is if you bend the pickup to clear the rod bolt, just make absolutely certain that the pan does not push it back up to where it interferes.
 
(quoted from post at 21:26:42 12/08/16) So I knew that the problem with the oil tube interference with a rod bolt was a common problem. When I had my 8N engine apart I looked and sure enough a notch had been worn in the tube. Was not too bad and I put a hose clamp over it just in case it contacted again. Turns out that was a good idea.

I had carefully bent the tube a bit too make sure I had clearance, and I had measured the clearance to the pan but obviously not accurately enough.

After I got the engine back together I had a noticeable knock. Very hard to isolate, but I could feel it with a finger on the side of the block or if I grabbed the governor housing.

Hard to imagine that was just the tube hitting, but I removed the oil drain plug and while holding the pickup and cranking the motor I could feel a [u:2d6d3b2bd9]very slight [/u:2d6d3b2bd9]movement once per rotation.

Trimmed about 1/8" off the pickup shroud and it shifted down just enough to clear the rod bolt. Now smooth and quiet.

[b:2d6d3b2bd9][color=red:2d6d3b2bd9]So, my point is if you bend the pickup to clear the rod bolt, just make absolutely certain that the pan does not push it back up to where it interferes.[/color:2d6d3b2bd9][/b:2d6d3b2bd9]

Thanks, good point to remember.
 
Also, remove the drain plug with screen when putting the pan back on the block. The pickup doesn't always want to line up with the
screen on the drain plug when assemblying the pan to the block.

I installed the pan by lowering the block down on to the heavy pan. Had the plug with screen in. BIG NO NO! Bent the tube into the
connecting rod(s). Knock, knock.
 
Quite a few years ago I figured out my drain plug was supposed to have a tall screen on it. Bought a new plug and when I tried to put it in it contacted the pickup tube and would not go in. No problem, Got a screw driver and aligned pickup with hole. Started tractor up and knock knock knock. Oh manure. took out new plug, used screwdriver to put pickup tube back in place and put old plug back in. No knock knock knock. Tractor has been running at least 45 years without the screen. Somethings are best to be just left alone I guess.
 

I bet that would have worked for me too (removing the screen and pushing the tube to the side) instead I used a hacksaw blade to trim the shroud slightly and drop it down. Then flushed it several times, swept the area with a flat magnet then left a magnet in the pan. I am just happy it was only the tube hitting, as it sounded like something much worse.
 

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