Are these tires hurting anything?

Hi all. I am sure by now a few of you know me from my many questions. First off, thank you for the help. I absolutely love this little tractor and it has done it's fair share of work already.

I had a flat rear tire the other day and for grins I looked at what a new pair of rears would cost. The fronts are like new but rears are pretty weather checked. After looking up on here what the tire size should be, I see that I have 2 or more sizes bigger tire than originally came on it. I have a 13.6x28 on it.
I really like the look of the tire but is this larger tire hurting the performance of the tractor at all?

In the little work I've done so far with it, it hasn't seemed to be an issue but this is the only tractor I've owned so I don't have any other comparison to go off of.

Thanks!
 
They increase your ground speed quite a bit.
First and reverse are already too fast on an 8N for most folks.
They will give you better traction but may slightly reduce power.

As far as harm to the tractor, none that I know of.
I try to keep them close to equal height side to side though.
Meaning I wouldn't buy one new small tire and run it with the
bigger tire on the other side until I could buy another one.
That time always seems to take longer than expected.
 
My Jubilee just happened to come with 13.6 X 28 as well.
In this case someone customized these Hat Box rims by welding in a band to widen them. They did a nice job of it. Makes your tractor wider for tight spaces though. :)
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13.6 is way to much tire for a N... I have had N's with new 11.2 and 12.4,,, I will take the 11.2 any day over any other tire.
 
Much too big for an 8N but will not hurt anything so long as you are not trying to over work the tractor.

That said, 13.6s will increase ground speed of the already too fast 8N significantly.

Dean
 
Ok so I could leave them on for now and when they bite the dust replace them with the 11.2's? I will need new rims anyways as they are spongy around the valve stems.
 
"Ok so I could leave them on for now and when they bite the dust replace them with the 11.2's?"

Yep. In the mean time, watch Craigslist for used ones.
I've bought non-running N's with good tires for less than new tires.
Not to mention the cost of rims and tubes. Tubes aren't cheap.
But those deals never seem to be there when I "need" them.
Good deals do not last long on CL either. Usually hours, not days.
 
I have 14.9 x 24's on my eazy starting 6-volt 52 8N. Same rolling diameter as 11.2's. FYI, yer N originally came with 10.0 x 28 which the DOT said was measured incorrectly so now the same tire is called 11.2. Also rear tire pressure is 12-psi, loaded or unloaded. Caution: a loaded rear tire weighs about 350-lbs so iff'n it starts to fall, gitt outta the way. ........HTH, the tired Dell
 
I may have to sleep in the barn if I bring home a non-running one. The wife will think it's another project.

I've already.. put electronic ignition on, changed axle shafts and hubs, rebuilt the carb and done a tune up on this one which was running when I bought it. That being said, she doesn't have a wobbly rear end now, starts and purrs smoothly from 400 to 2200 rpm without a hitch.

The help from you guys has been irreplaceable. Thank you for the past and continued help.

I'm hooked on these old tractors!

Although I did show the wife how to drive it over the weekend and she had a grin from ear to ear. She thinks that she can drive a stick now...lol. With no load I bet you'd be hard pressed to stall one of these tractors in 1st.
 
about the same size tractor
TO35 Ferguson
last year I installed a set of 12.4 x 28 tires

I think they look about the right size and will allow the tires to slip if pulling hard
"rather the tires slip than the clutch"

fit the fenders about right,
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"I may have to sleep in the barn if I bring home a non-running one."

There may be a benefit to that.
Tractors are cheaper than children!

If you buy one for $x, keep the tires and rims then sell it
for the same or a little less than $x, you made money.
Add in labor and hauling costs of course.
 
"Ok so in this situation, if I keep the tires and rims, how do I sell a tractor without rear tires or rims?"

You would swap them with your current rims and tires.
 
Benj.........yeah, when I gitta round tuit. Rite now I'm still trying to recover from 3-1/2 months in the horsepittal with a leaky heel. Seems I have diabetes. (frown) When they finally let me outta bed and let me have internet access, I could surf the net ...but... could NOT post enny messages. I just gotta property tax bill of almost $5000 fer my 5-acres of sheep pasture that I haffta pay by 31 Oct. ........Dell
 
"I just gotta property tax bill of almost $5000 fer my 5-acres of sheep pasture that I haffta pay by 31 Oct."

A possible solution - [b:d86028efff]GoFundMe.com[/b:d86028efff]
Americans are very generous people.
 
12.4X28 is the OEM tire size for a TO-35.

13.6X28s are two sizes larger than OEM for an 8N, and much too large.

Dean
 
On the plus side Ken . . .

This Spring while parking-out my little aldergrove, I sunk in the wet mud in seconds down to the drums, but my sweet big old balloon tires got me right out . . .

What was that Beach Boys song?
Oh ya, Good flotation :D

Also I learned from a video . . . put the tractor on level concrete or pavement and take out air pressure till all of each lug is just touching ground. Better traction when you need it.
But I think if my tires were showing too much old weather cracking, I'd keep them pumped higher (outer edges of the lugs up) so the old cracks wouldn't flex so much making them worse.

How's that for a specious diatribe!
 

Craig,

I think that's the size (12.4) that I would go down to if I bought two new tires for this Jube. But these 13.6's might outlast me.

How can you tell
I like the industrial
Utility tractor look :D
Fat tires give the NAA a taste of that.
 
"The Jubilee has 12.4x28 fills the fenders"

To me that would be a good fit.
12.4's are not too bad on an N series either.

My loader tractor has 13.6 x 28's on it. They hold more weight.
"Crispy" had 11.2 x 28's which are the replacement original size.

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With all that inner fender exposed with Crispy's tires, a person could do an interesting inner fender paint job for the parade.
or just paint the visible part of the bracket red :)
 
When I was looking to upgrade my tractor I
bought a 3000 with poor 13.6s on it. Was
going to sell the 2N to offset the cost of
the new tractor. Hated to lose the near new
11.2 Firestones on new rims I had on the N.
(Had good chains for them too) So before I
sold it I swapped the tires.
Imo it made both tractors look rather
ridiculous. 11.2s looked way too small on
the 3000 and 13.6s way too big on the N.
There's about a 4" height difference between
the 2 sizes which is pretty significant.
I think tractor manufacturers had things
pretty well figured out when it came to tire
sizes. There's a balance between ground
speed, horsepower, traction and yes, looks.
The fellow who bought the 2N didn't seem to
know or care about the too-big tires and was
happy with the tractor.
I was unhappy with the 11.2s on the 3000 as
I could spin the tires too easily even with
wheel weights. Had to be quick on the
clutch when you were plowing/discing as
they'd dig right in so fast you'd be
sitting on the drawbar.
I sold those fairly soon and found some
bigger ones.
Getting back to your question though, it
won't hurt anything to run the bigger tires.
One advantage you'll have is being able to
put more of your hp to the ground without
added weight.
Disadvantage though is ground speed. An 8N
is pretty fast already, especially in
reverse, without adding bigger tires to the
equation.
Sorry for rambling on...
 
My 52 8n came with 13s and been using it with no issue for 15yrs. I have another 8n with 11s and really don't notice much difference in performance between the 2.
 
12.4s on my '50. The only time the added ground speed has been a real problem was when I tried running a JD30 combine behind the 8N. Left too much grain in the field. Backing up can get hairy if you don't keep your head in it, too!

I like the look, FWIW.

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Thanks everyone for the replys. I'll keep an eye out for some 11 or 12's but glad to hear that I'm not hurting the old girl by running it the way it is.

The tractor came with tire chains but I've yet to put them on. Hopefully come winter the bigger tires might give me a little better traction. I've got about a 200 yard long driveway so I'm hoping the 6ft back blade on her will be better than my 24" snow blower.
 

Kind of a different topic then the original post but I'm the thread originator so I guess it's ok...to try to keep from digging up gravel when plowing the snow, do you set the position up a little off the ground or still put the blade all the way down?
 
There are quite a few threads here where
folks talk about slitting a piece of pvc
pipe and attaching it to the cutting edge of
the blade. Supposedly it doesn't move the
gravel around so much.
I have never tried it.
Why don't you start a new thread about it.
It's that time of year when guys are getting
their snow equipment ready. Get some timely
advice.
 
i have a 950 that has 14.9-28's on it.

for a while I needed to put some 11.2-28's on it so i could fix the ol power adjust rims.

here is an idea of the size difference of those sizes.

I have the 14.9 back on it now. I love the clearance for mowing.
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Wow! Thanks soundguy for that picture! That is a drastic difference. I love the look of the wider tire but its easy to see on a 8n how it could add to ground speed and may take away some small amount of power.
I'm still leaning towards keeping my current tires till they give up. I have a slow leak on the left one that I'm going to try some green slime in to see if it'll fix it. Maybe I'd do a compromise on the next one's on some 12.4's. It'd slow it down a touch but still be slightly wider than the 11.2's.

How long does a set of tires generally last? I know that is a loaded question and varies on the type of ground being driven on, the amount the tractor is used (both heavy use and sit for extended periods to dry rot) and if it is stored outside.

For me, I don't use my N to mow (I have a 61" zero turn for that) and so far have just used it for driveway maintenance and to open up a garden with a set of disks. I do plan on getting a brush hog and a carry all to get a little more use of it as I love the tractor. I am 32 years old and I see no reason that this 64 year old tractor can't be passed down to future generations to come.
 
SoundN,

Very interesting inside sway bars. You've been holding out on us. :D

They aren't even in the way when you are using your Jack-all -- like mine were when I used my Jack-all on the Jube.

Terry
 
(quoted from post at 04:57:55 10/19/16)
Kind of a different topic then the original post but I'm the thread originator so I guess it's ok...to try to keep from digging up gravel when plowing the snow, do you set the position up a little off the ground or still put the blade all the way down?

I roll the blade forward (shorten the top link), which keeps it from digging in too badly. Once the ground is frozen hard, it doesn't pick up that much gravel anyway. I've also gotten where I plan where I drag and dump so I can easily drag the gravel back come spring.

There are a number of posts in the archives showing where folks have added shoes to their blades to keep them ½" off the ground or so, which is another good option.

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How long does a set of tires generally last? I know that is a loaded question and varies on the type of ground being driven on, the amount the tractor is used (both heavy use and sit for extended periods to dry rot) and if it is stored outside.

I'll be starting my ninth season next Spring since restoring my 8N, which included new rims and tires. The N gets worked hard year-round, and I'd say the (loaded) rears are probably at 8/10 and the fronts (three-rib 19") at maybe 6/10 right now.

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