Oily Brakes

mgriff543

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I have an 8n that one set of brakes has been immersed in oil. Beyond replacing the bad seals will the shoes wash up or are they so absorbent that they should be replaced
 
Some folks claim they've cleaned them.

But, given the time & energy to do that & not be successful, and the minimal costs for new shoes, I always replace them.

I use the excuse that I'm not 16 anymore & I can afford to do the job right.
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If you want to joint the club of dummarsess that claim N brakes are a POS do as they do and try and clean them. You can buy a haft a set of shoes and never look back...
 
mgriff543, I'm a few miles North of Ionia, MI.
I have a good set of used ones if you're interested in them.
All they would cost you is the drive to pick them up.
Email me at RoyseTractors at gmail.com and I'll send pictures
and my phone number so we can arrange a date/time.
 
(quoted from post at 23:16:37 08/24/16) mgriff543, I'm a few miles North of Ionia, MI.
I have a good set of used ones if you're interested in them.
All they would cost you is the drive to pick them up.
Email me at RoyseTractors at gmail.com and I'll send pictures
and my phone number so we can arrange a date/time.

email sent, thx
 
Lol Hobo.
Guess I'm one of those DAs.
As far as I'm concerned Ford didn't put a
set of brakes on a tractor till they came
out with double reduction rear ends and wet
brakes - in 1965.
 
(quoted from post at 07:34:13 08/25/16) Lol Hobo.
Guess I'm one of those DAs.
As far as I'm concerned Ford didn't put a
set of brakes on a tractor till they came
out with double reduction rear ends and wet
brakes - in 1965.
Why wet brakes? Cooling or maybe part of a hydrostatic drive pack?
 
Up till about 1983 on all tractors under
about 45 hp Ford used the same outboard
dry, drum type brakes like you find on all
the Ns, Hundreds, Thousands, etc. I would
call them adequate (if you have strong
legs)but they sure are nothing to brag
about.
Beginning in 65 on tractors over about 45
hp they used internal disc brakes that
were immersed in the rear end oil = wet.
With about 1/4 of the leg pressure that
drum brakes require they will STOP you.
Photo shows the trumpets off of a 4000.
Inside the bell shaped portion are the
brakes.
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Interesting.
I replied to you but it isn't showing up.
I didn't say anything bad, just explained
the wet brakes.
I wonder what happened.
Let's see if this one makes it.
 
Up till about 1983 on all tractors under
about 45 hp Ford used the same outboard
dry, drum type brakes like you find on all
the Ns, Hundreds, Thousands, etc. I would
call them adequate (if you have strong
legs)but they sure are nothing to brag
about.
Beginning in 65 on tractors over about 45
hp they used internal disc brakes that
were immersed in the rear end oil = wet.
With about 1/4 of the leg pressure that
drum brakes require they will STOP you.
Photo shows the trumpets off of a 4000.
Inside the bell shaped portion are the
brakes.
Try this again.
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"Interesting.
I replied to you but it isn't showing up.
I didn't say anything bad, just explained
the wet brakes.
I wonder what happened.
Let's see if this one makes it."

i see both posts. my money says this is a "quirk" of maintaining both classic and modern view. i use modern view, and there will sometimes be posts that the board index shows as latest post, but when i go to the thread, there's no post by that person visible. once, a week or so ago, the original post of a thread was missing :lol:
 
Thats interesting UD, I've never worked on anything that new so it never occurred to me that there was another way to brake.
 

The problem is if folks can hang a set of shoes it makes them a expert. Fact is having the ability to hang a set of shoes does not make you a brake expert. They make to many mistakes and think because there tractor does not stop good make up excuses for it.

When the job is done proper it will slide/lock up the wheels with normal pressure :shock:
 
Hobo,
I've never replaced a set of brakes on a
tractor. Never needed to.
But you know I have been messing with
these Ford school tractors for several
years now. I have had 2 3600s and 2 3000s
plus several 4000s.
As you know, these tractors are brand new.
They were assembled by Ford and then
donated to various high schools and Vo
Techs around the country. Some were messed
with by students, some were never touched
at all.
Anyway, I think that the dry drum brakes
that Ford used on all the smaller Fords
are nothing to write home about. Even when
they are NOS, brand new, factory
assembled.
Compared to the wet disc ones the dry drum
type are barely adequate. But that's about
all.
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