8N front mount 6 volt positive ground. Distributor in my hand, 6v to terminal of coil, distributor housing grounded (if you want to call it that). Turn shaft by hand, good strong spark all cap nipples every rotation. Put distributor back on tractor, no spark.
Have 2 complete distributors. Have swapped pieces to isolate if just a component to no avail. Has been running fine 2 days of use, went to run it today and started, drove out of the shed and died. At first I could keep it running by jumper wire from battery to distributor, but then that didn't even help. Only did that for a few seconds at a time.
6 volts at coil, roll motor, drops as points close, then back to 6 volt as points open. At this point I think there is Velcro on the distributor it's been in and out so many times. I've even jumped starter with 12 volt so I wouldn't be pulling voltage from ignition.
I'm open to any and all suggestions or "that happened to me one time" I can get.
Tomorrow the generator comes off to get out of my way so I can at least speed up the R&R time for diagnosing this bugger.
 
Assuming that the bushings & advance weights are ok (*see below), & that you have correct voltage to the coil (battery voltage with the points open and about half that with the points closed), the most common electrical failure (no spark, weak spark) points on the front mount are:

1. The insulator under the brass concave head screw & where the copper strip attaches. (it?s fiber & will wear out; poke & prod w/ your meter leads to make sure it still works) If you need to replace the insulator, use a .250 x 3/8 nylon square nylon anchor nut available at most big box home stores

2. The pigtail at the bottom of the coil not making contact w/ the concave head brass screw inside the distributor. (With the coil on, the pigtail must firmly contact the brass screw. No contact = no spark

3. The copper strip is broken or grounded to the plate. (look very carefully for cracks & breaks).

4. The condenser wire grounding to the plate or side of the distributor.

5. The tab on the bottom of the coil not making contact w/ the brass button on the cap. (With the cap on, the tab must firmly contact the brass button. No contact = no spark.)

6. Incorrect positioning of the spring clip on the plate causing the pigtail to ground. (the open part of the clip goes between 7 & 9 o?clock on the plate. That puts the straight part of the clip opposite of the timing screw at 3 o?clock)

7. Incorrect seating of the coil on the distributor due to a loose bail or no gasket.(the coil must not move at all; if it does, replace the gasket or bail. Or stick some cardboard under the bail).

8. Water/moisture inside the cap due to gasket failure or the absence of a gasket. (the cap AND coil have gaskets)

9. Dirty/corroded/burned/incorrectly gapped or misaligned points. I use only Wells, Blue Streak or Echlin brand points (* *see below). If you are using quality points and cannot get the gap to open to .015, chances are you need to replace the bushings. If the shaft has any sideways movement AT ALL, the bushings must be replaced.

10. Burned rotor, cracked/carbon tracked cap.

After find the problem & re-check the point gap, do a continuity check before you put the distributor back on the tractor. Before you start, make sure your meter/light works.

With the distributor still off the tractor, follow these steps:

1. Coil off, cap off, points open. One probe on the brass screw & the other on both sides of the open points. On the side closest to the cam, you should have continuity. Not on the other side! If you do, you will also have continuity everywhere because the points are grounded.

2. Coil off, cap off, points open. One probe on the brass screw & the other anywhere on the body of the distributor. You should have no continuity! Now, rotate the tang on the distributor....as the points open & close, you have continuity (closed) and lose it when they open.

3. Put the coil on the distributor, cap off, points open. One probe on the lead on the top of the coil, the other on the cam side of the open points. You should have continuity!

4. Coil on, cap off, points open. One probe on the lead on the top of the coil, the other anywhere on the body of the distributor. You should have no continuity!

At this point, I just put the distributor, coil & cap all back on the tractor as a unit. The reason I do this is because it is real easy to get the cap or coil misaligned trying to put it back together, one piece at a time. The result is something gets broken or you get a ?no spark? problem.

It's possible to put it back on wrong & break it. Look at the slot on the end of the cam shaft. Whatever angle it happens to be, turn the distributor tang to match it. Make sure you can tell the wide side from the narrow side on both the cam & distributor! (close counts). Place the distributor on the front of the engine, gently push it in place & slowly turn the distributor body until you feel the tang slip into the slot. Rotate the distributor body until the bolt holes line up. Hand tighten the two bolts until the distributor body is flush with the timing gear cover.

* Unscrew the plate hold down screw & remove the C clip to get the plate out. Remove the shaft & weights. The weights should freely move.

* *NAPA part numbers:

? Points: FD-6769X
? Condenser: FD-71
? Rotor: FD-104
? Cap: FD-126
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" At first I could keep it running by jumper wire from battery to distributor, but then that didn't even help."

So you bypassed the resistor and the ignition switch and it ran for a while but not any more? I would suspect that the coil has died. Initially the increased amps helped produce a spark but not now. PS I don't think running the tractor for a while without resistors did in the coil but that it was on its way before you did this.
 
Thanks for the response. I've pretty much been through all that 4 or 5 time now. As for a bad coil, that would be no spark on or off the tractor. And I have one new and 2 old coils that have been tried. All have the same result.
But after all afternoon on it yesterday, I'll start fresh today and recheck it all. It just seems like it should verify everything in distributor when it functions so well in my hand.
 
One more addition for your consideration. Distributor also functions if connected to the same circuit as when on the tractor. Makes me think ground at distributor, but I did put a jumper to the housing from the block.
 
"Turn shaft by hand, good strong spark all cap nipples every rotation. " When testing off of the tractor, are you rotating it in same direction as it rotates on the tractor? This matters!
 
" I'll start fresh today and recheck it all. "

Good idea. Because it will be one of the 10 items I listed.

Is your timing lock screw centered? Sometimes the timing can be set too far one way or the other & cause the pigtail to miss the brass screw. As in the pic.
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Not one of the 10 things you listed. Surprise. I was out of ideas so I swapped the resistor from my parts tractor. SUCCESS!! Voltage measured with original was 5 volts after resistor, with the replacement, 5.5 volts. What a difference a half volt makes!
 
(quoted from post at 13:43:59 08/05/16) Not one of the 10 things you listed. Surprise. I was out of ideas so I swapped the resistor from my parts tractor. SUCCESS!! Voltage measured with original was 5 volts after resistor, with the replacement, 5.5 volts. What a difference a half volt makes!
t is times like this that we still need Paul Harvey around!
 
" Not one of the 10 things you listed."

No, it wasn't in the list of 10....it was in my very first sentence:

" & that you have correct voltage to the coil (battery voltage with the points open and about half that with the points closed), "
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Yeah, I get that. But I still couldn't figure out why if that was the issue, it wouldn't spark with the resistor bypassed. I guess it's just not "computerized" enough. I started when nothing had a computer, but that was many moons ago. My memory banks are archived and a little hard to access sometimes.
All that said, it runs, I'm happy, the kids and grandkids are happy. The tractor is happy.
I have found this forum to be quite valuable in keeping this 70+ year old gem going. Here's to another 70 years.
 

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