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I have an 8n with hat rims that are in great condition and 11.2 tires that are in very good shape very little wear. Was wondering what they would be worth in am looking to sell them tires are matched. I live in central pa
 
Have you had the tires off the rims? Are the tires loaded, and with what? I had a set of rear tires and top hat rims on my 2N that I thought was in great condition until they went flat because of all the rust I found in them that I didn't know about until I had them dismounted. I would let the air out of at least one and break the bead loose to see what condition they are in before selling to someone else. :lol:
 
Yep, don't go by what they may look like on the outside...ya gotta get the tires off and see what the insides look like. Calcium Chloride was the media of choice back when for adding ballast weight to the rear end. It's good for weight, very bad on ferrous substances. If tires and tubes were ever loaded with the stuff, they would be contaminated as well. Tires can be flushed and washed good, tubes discarded and replaced with new ones. Do not re-use old tubes if they ever had Ca Chl in them...meaning do not use beet juice or anything else in them.


Tim *PloughNman* Daley(MI)
 
Tim,

You wrote:
[color=darkblue:7d2a353f00] Tires can be flushed and washed good, tubes discarded and replaced with new ones. Do not re-use old tubes if they ever had Ca Chl in them...meaning do not use beet juice or anything else in them.[/color:7d2a353f00]

Now he tells me! :D

I drained my CaCl in the Spring of 2014 . . . killed everything in the ditch across the road and nothing would grow there for two years!

BUT . . . after inflating my tubes and painstakingly sanding, scraping and picking off all the rust flakes and leaving them sit around for a couple of weeks full of air, I put them back on the
tractor with new valves. So that's two full years of use so far.

Through the whole saga of my damaged Hats no one mentioned that a CaCl tube shouldn't be reused.
I'm glad of that but hope I don't live to regret it. :)

T
My 13" custom Hat Box rims. Ho Ho
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Tim,

DOH! I put my foot in again. You said to not put any other liquid in them . . . you didn't mean "no air".

Terry
 
(quoted from post at 13:46:38 06/29/16) Tim,

DOH! I put my foot in again. You said to not put any other liquid in them . . . you didn't mean "no air".

Terry
I don't think your tubes were the cause of your damage.
CaCl does rust metal. FAST! But it has to touch the metal.
That usually happens when a tube leaks and isn't noticed
or is ignored and more air is added just to get going.
If your tubes weren't leaking the damage was most likely
from previously damaged/leaking tubes.

Funny story, I bought a pair of nice bias tires from a local guy.
They were 11.2 x 28's that were on an 8N with 6 loop rims.

He was getting rid of them because they were loaded with
CaCl and rusted his rims. Every time he bought new rims,
put them on and loaded them with CaCl they would rust out
his rims. Every time!

I asked him where he bought his tubes and what brand they
were. He told me they were tubeless tires. No tubes. Ever.
Tires are still on my tractor. No rusted rims yet.
 
Too far away for me to judge, but if you have some pictures
I can send them to a couple of friends out your way.
I had a pair that looked great on the outside but when I rolled
them around I could hear the rust moving around inside.
They still weren't too hard to fix. Just a lot of cleaning.
 

Royse,

I think you misunderstood what I meant by damage and understandably so. My rims were in good shape but the damage was what happened when the tire jockey beat the snot out of my rim edges . . . remember. :)

I'd advise anyone with Hats to seal up the bolt passages in the hat channel with silicone so water can't get in to the channel. I notice when I park if I've hosed the mud off the tires or if it's rained or is raining, there will be a pool of water right there at a bolt hole (especially if the tractor is at an angle) that happens to have come to rest at the lowest position of rotation.

In fact, if you mount both wheels the exact same way, you can park the tractor so that neither wheel has a lug bottom dead center.

Just some of the rim damage:
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I remember the damage that excuse for a dealer did.
Not a guy I would ever take anything to!
The rust damage is what I was talking about.

If you seal them completely, how does condensation get out?
I seem to remember you drilled holes in yours for that purpose?
 
(quoted from post at 19:53:52 06/29/16) I remember the damage that excuse for a dealer did.
Not a guy I would ever take anything to!
The rust damage is what I was talking about.

If you seal them completely, how does condensation get out?
I seem to remember you drilled holes in yours for that purpose?

That was an earlier game plan I was brainstorming
but then I decided to seal them up watertight (I think) with some good blue silicone I had around, and before that they were bone dry for weeks in the warm weather. Now any condensation entering in should theoretically be only in the air of the tube.
So given no tube leaks I'm thinking my rims inside including the channels, is bone dry still.

On the nut side I used two oil soaked leather washers, one under the disk against the channel and another under the flat washer under the nut. I used some thin tough timpany drum skin leather. I had to screw each one on, so they did fit nice.

But the leather idea along WITH a good sealant, would probably seal the the nut side the best. So next time they're off on the 12th of never . . . dream on.

Cheers,
T

Silicone under the bolt heads was easy and the leather washers kept them held up while I loaded them with blue. :)
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