8N quadrant lift handle

Caryc · May 20, 2016

Trying to get my 3 point to lift higher that the balls on the lift arms at 23 1/2" off the ground. I hear they're supposed to go up something like 34".

This is concerning the half moon cradle that the lift arm lever rides in. I found out that if I remove the outer piece from it so I can move the lift arm higher than the cradle, the arms will go up higher.

I'm wonder what keeps that lift arm lever cradle tight and how do I move it counter clockwise so my lift arm lever will go up higher?

The only thing I see is the nut and spring that keeps the friction disc tight. If I loosen that, will the lift lever cage be able to move?

Den N Ms · May 20, 2016

Caryc,You can loosen the 4 bolts behind the friction disc where the quadrant mounts to the top cover and rotate the lift quadrant to the rear as the mount holes are slotted.

Caryc · May 20, 2016

(quoted from post at 18:35:30 05/20/16) Caryc,You can loosen the 4 bolts behind the friction disc where the quadrant mounts to the top cover and rotate the lift quadrant to the rear as the mount holes are slotted.

Loosening those four bolts only lets you move the plate that holds the quadrant and lever to the rear a bit. Those slotted holes are horizontal. I'm talking about rotating the quadrant counter clockwise a bit so the touch control lever will go further past the top where it currently hits the top of the quadrant.

Moving the whole thing to the rear about 1/8" to 3 1/6" of an inch makes the lift go squirreley and it doesn't lift right. I just need the touch control lever to be able to move further towards the rear of the tractor. Right now, the quadrant cage is stopping the lever from going any further. What is holding the quadrant in place? Is it keyed on something? even with those four bolts loose it doesn't seem to want to rotate.

JMOR · May 21, 2016

(quoted from post at 22:31:27 05/20/16)

(quoted from post at 18:35:30 05/20/16) Caryc,You can loosen the 4 bolts behind the friction disc where the quadrant mounts to the top cover and rotate the lift quadrant to the rear as the mount holes are slotted.

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Loosening those four bolts only lets you move the plate that holds the quadrant and lever to the rear a bit. Those slotted holes are horizontal. I'm talking about rotating the quadrant counter clockwise a bit so the touch control lever will go further past the top where it currently hits the top of the quadrant.

Moving the whole thing to the rear about 1/8" to 3 1/6" of an inch makes the lift go squirreley and it doesn't lift right. I just need the touch control lever to be able to move further towards the rear of the tractor. Right now, the quadrant cage is stopping the lever from going any further. What is holding the quadrant in place? Is it keyed on something? even with those four bolts loose it doesn't seem to want to rotate.

hat is holding it in place? I would vote for the world's best loctite.........rust.

Caryc · May 21, 2016

(quoted from post at 23:02:13 05/20/16)

(quoted from post at 22:31:27 05/20/16)

(quoted from post at 18:35:30 05/20/16) Caryc,You can loosen the 4 bolts behind the friction disc where the quadrant mounts to the top cover and rotate the lift quadrant to the rear as the mount holes are slotted.

Click to expand...

Loosening those four bolts only lets you move the plate that holds the quadrant and lever to the rear a bit. Those slotted holes are horizontal. I'm talking about rotating the quadrant counter clockwise a bit so the touch control lever will go further past the top where it currently hits the top of the quadrant.

Moving the whole thing to the rear about 1/8" to 3 1/6" of an inch makes the lift go squirreley and it doesn't lift right. I just need the touch control lever to be able to move further towards the rear of the tractor. Right now, the quadrant cage is stopping the lever from going any further. What is holding the quadrant in place? Is it keyed on something? even with those four bolts loose it doesn't seem to want to rotate.

Click to expand...

hat is holding it in place? I would vote for the world's best loctite.........rust.

Ok, so let me get this straight, If this tractor was brand new just off the line, I could loosen the nut and spring and the quadrant bracket would be free to rotate in clockwise or counter clockwise movement?

Ken(Ark) · May 21, 2016

Ok, so let me get this straight, If this tractor was brand new just off the line, I could loosen the nut and spring and the quadrant bracket would be free to rotate in clockwise or counter clockwise movement?

No the whole quadrant will slide forwards or backwards . There is a mark on the quadrant and a corresponding mark on the cover that line up when set in the middle .

If sliding the quadrant all the way does not fix the problem , then it is probably a worn cam / follower pin or bent control arm on the inside . It is not a hard task but it will take the most part of a day an be good for 20 years .

JMOR · May 21, 2016

(quoted from post at 13:45:46 05/21/16)

(quoted from post at 23:02:13 05/20/16)

(quoted from post at 22:31:27 05/20/16)

(quoted from post at 18:35:30 05/20/16) Caryc,You can loosen the 4 bolts behind the friction disc where the quadrant mounts to the top cover and rotate the lift quadrant to the rear as the mount holes are slotted.

Click to expand...

Loosening those four bolts only lets you move the plate that holds the quadrant and lever to the rear a bit. Those slotted holes are horizontal. I'm talking about rotating the quadrant counter clockwise a bit so the touch control lever will go further past the top where it currently hits the top of the quadrant.

Moving the whole thing to the rear about 1/8" to 3 1/6" of an inch makes the lift go squirreley and it doesn't lift right. I just need the touch control lever to be able to move further towards the rear of the tractor. Right now, the quadrant cage is stopping the lever from going any further. What is holding the quadrant in place? Is it keyed on something? even with those four bolts loose it doesn't seem to want to rotate.

Click to expand...

hat is holding it in place? I would vote for the world's best loctite.........rust.

Click to expand...

Ok, so let me get this straight, If this tractor was brand new just off the line, I could loosen the nut and spring and the quadrant bracket would be free to rotate in clockwise or counter clockwise movement?

t has been awhile, so Ill leave myself a bit of wiggle room, but I believe the answer is yes. Believe that you can slide the whole quadrant assy off the control shaft and out of lift cover

Hobo,NC · May 21, 2016

Whut he said...

"half moon cradle"

You are not gonna move it... Its sweated together are pressed crimped...

" Right now, the quadrant cage is stopping the lever from going any further."

You can remove the outer retainer are make a extension to get you by...
You will sooner are later have to remove the lift cover to repair what Ken said... Repair/replace the worn cam/pin and are make adjustments.

I know of two other ways to work around it but it will only prolong the inevitable.

Caryc · May 21, 2016

Ok, I don't think you guys are quite getting what I"m asking here. It's probably due in fact to my poor explanation, so I'm enclosing a pic.

I took the outer piece off of the quadrant "A" so it let me move the handle past the top of it as you see in the picture. This gave me full lift.

So, what I'm asking is this...is there a way to rotate the quadrant "A" only so that the top part of it is back where you see the dashed lines in my pic? That would let the lift lever move further towards the rear as you see it in my drawing.

Hobo,NC · May 21, 2016

Yes it will come out of the cover... I think he wants to clock it counter clockwise so he will get more range from the control leaver... It ain't gonna happen...

Caryc · May 21, 2016

(quoted from post at 13:21:49 05/21/16)
Whut he said...

"half moon cradle"

You are not gonna move it... Its sweated together are pressed crimped...

" Right now, the quadrant cage is stopping the lever from going any further."

You can remove the outer retainer are make a extension to get you by...
You will sooner are later have to remove the lift cover to repair what Ken said... Repair/replace the worn cam/pin and are make adjustments.

I know of two other ways to work around it but it will only prolong the inevitable.

Thank you Hobo. You made this post about 30 seconds before I made the picture post.

You explained exactly what I was wondering about. So...not being able to move the quadrant, maybe it would be simpler for me to just make a new off set touch control lever to compensate for this.

I'm well aware of the real need to tare it down and fix things correctly but in my case time is of the essence since I have been diagnosed with bone marrow cancer. I just want the thing to be usable for a long as I'm still here. I'll explain to my nephews what needs to be done and they can do it, since they will be getting my 5 acres and the tractor to take care of it. The land, I'm not that concerned about but I hope they will take good care of the tractor since it has served me very well for ten years.

Ken(Ark) · May 21, 2016

..... in my case time is of the essence since I have been diagnosed with bone marrow cancer. I just want the thing to be usable for a long as I'm still here. I'll explain to my nephews what needs to be done and they can do it, since they will be getting my 5 acres and the tractor to take care of it....

Sorry to hear that . In this case take the arm off , cut a v in it and bend it 10 , 15 , 20 degrees and weld it back . It should all fit neatly back in the cage . Your nephews can buy a used one for $10 on ebay when the fix the cam / pin .

NoNewParts · May 21, 2016

(quoted from post at 21:26:13 05/21/16)

..... in my case time is of the essence since I have been diagnosed with bone marrow cancer. I just want the thing to be usable for a long as I'm still here. I'll explain to my nephews what needs to be done and they can do it, since they will be getting my 5 acres and the tractor to take care of it....

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Sorry to hear that . In this case take the arm off , cut a v in it and bend it 10 , 15 , 20 degrees and weld it back . It should all fit neatly back in the cage . Your nephews can buy a used one for $10 on ebay when the fix the cam / pin .

Above 'rig' will work.
Couple others since we are being directly asked for 'rigs'
(someone correct me if I describe wrong, been a while since I rigged one)

Take the bolt out of the top of the quadrant, drill the threads out, spread it a bit. Bend a narrow U bracket, bolt it in with the bolts facing out...just extend the quadrant. (noticeable)

another..take out the 2 bolts at the bottom of the lever to remove just the lever. Grind the flat bottom at an angle, and drill a new forward hole...or if you just need a little, make the hole bigger after grinding so you can get the bolt in, bolt it back on.(not noticeable)

Caryc · May 21, 2016

(quoted from post at 17:56:46 05/21/16)

(quoted from post at 21:26:13 05/21/16)

..... in my case time is of the essence since I have been diagnosed with bone marrow cancer. I just want the thing to be usable for a long as I'm still here. I'll explain to my nephews what needs to be done and they can do it, since they will be getting my 5 acres and the tractor to take care of it....

Click to expand...

Sorry to hear that . In this case take the arm off , cut a v in it and bend it 10 , 15 , 20 degrees and weld it back . It should all fit neatly back in the cage . Your nephews can buy a used one for $10 on ebay when the fix the cam / pin .

Click to expand...

Above 'rig' will work.
Couple others since we are being directly asked for 'rigs'
(someone correct me if I describe wrong, been a while since I rigged one)

Take the bolt out of the top of the quadrant, drill the threads out, spread it a bit. Bend a narrow U bracket, bolt it in with the bolts facing out...just extend the quadrant. (noticeable)

[color=red:c14cc4bc5b]another..take out the 2 bolts at the bottom of the lever to remove just the lever. Grind the flat bottom at an angle, and drill a new forward hole...or if you just need a little, make the hole bigger after grinding so you can get the bolt in, bolt it back on.(not noticeable)[[/color:c14cc4bc5b]/b]

Actually, I did that today. I gained about three inches in lift height. Actually, the only reason I wanted more lift was because I purchased one of TSC's three point carry alls. The trouble is that the lift pins on it are a little low and it only came up about four inches off the ground. It worked though as I used it to move an old refrigerator that I use for ammo storage.

After that, I redrilled new pin holes in the carry all and installed the pins lower. I haven't tried it back on the tractor yet. I'll give it a try when I get this quick hitch thing solved.

Ken...Another good idea about cutting a "V" notch out of the handle and rewelding it. Maybe I'll see if I can get another used handle first though.

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