12v conversion using 6v coil

I have searched on here for the answer to this but want to ask specifically for my situation. I have an 8N side mount distributor, and have the AKT0004 12v conversion kit. If I'm using the 6v coil, do I use the resistor or not? The drawing on the directions show using the resistor and a 12v coil... Thanks, Jim
 
(quoted from post at 11:45:53 02/12/16) I have searched on here for the answer to this but want to ask specifically for my situation. I have an 8N side mount distributor, and have the AKT0004 12v conversion kit. If I'm using the 6v coil, do I use the resistor or not? The drawing on the directions show using the resistor and a 12v coil... Thanks, Jim

Resistor with 6V coil. No resistor with 12V coil.

TOH
 
Jim.........TOH is correct, use original round can 6-volt coil AND the 12-to-6 volt converting resistor. Me? I recommend using a real 12-volt coil, NAPA IC-14 ($18, cheap) and NO resistor. Understand the difference??? ......Dell yer self-appointed electrician and sparkie-meister
 
As has been said. But if it is a true 12 volt coil no resister is needed but it all depends on the coil it self. Many coils that are called 12 volt are really not a true 12 volt coil. A good coil will say in it external resister needed or it will say no resister needed right on it.
 
before i put the front back on my 2N, how do i tell if my coil is 6 or 12? i'm assuming it's 6, i sure don't remember replacing it when i converted - but i'd like to know, rather than guess about it.
 
Dell,which IC-14 coil are you talking about? I just called Napa and they say it's $38.00 for one and a
cheaper model is $23.00,they don't list one less than that. Old prices or wrong #? Thanks,I'm looking at
converting to 12 volt also and think the internal resistor is the way to go.
 
" think the internal resistor is the way to go. "

Coils do not have internal resistors.

They either require an external resistor or they don't.

NAPA prices vary from store to store & state to state.

For a 12v system side coil w/ no external resistor, use NAPA coil IC14SB.
75 Tips
 
Add an "SB" at the end to get the lower-cost generic version.

Then, stop and take a minute to realize it does NOT have an "internal resistor".

It is simply wound with more turns of wire to make it a "true" 12 Volt coil that does NOT need a resistor, internal OR external.
 

If you don't like NAPA.

http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/ignition/ig110.htm

You can do a online search to narrow down what vehicles used the IC14 and get one from most any auto parts store.

Back to NAPA, there stores are a franchise the ability of the owner to provide the best price will depend on his buying power. The local store lost his franchise he was not selling enough, stock was low and his prices were sky high. NAPA gave the franchise to a large NAPA franchise that owns 30 stores. So far the new outfit blows the other local parts stores out of the water on price.

I did do a quick search the list is to long to post...

AMC Rambler 1958 - 1958 are any AMC 1958 to 1964.

Looks like a Renault Le Car 1977 - 1979 coil is the same along with the thermostat...

To the original poster there is nuttin wrong with adding a resistor to yer 6V coil and using it... Your call... OEMs used this set up for years :shock:
 
(quoted from post at 19:48:43 02/12/16) before i put the front back on my 2N, how do i tell if my coil is 6 or 12? i'm assuming it's 6, i sure don't remember replacing it when i converted - but i'd like to know, rather than guess about it.

There are only two coild available for the front mount engines. A 6 volt and a 12 volt. Neither is a "true" 6 volt or 12 volt coil because both are designed to work with the original factory ignition resistor that came on all of these tractors.

If you didn't change the coil when you converted to 12 volts, there should be an add-on or replacement resistor between the ignition switch and the coil. The replacement resistors are usually automotive type, white ceramic, about 3" long, with a 1-hole mounting clamp in the middle (usually).

If that is not enough clues, grab an ohmmeter, measure between the top screw terminal and the coiled springy terminal. A 6 volt will be around 0.5 ohms, and a 12 volt will be 2.0 or more. Most homeowner ohmmeters are almost useless, but should be good enough to see if the coil is closer to 2.0 or 0.5 ohms.
 
bruce, KL was answering my question - mine's a front.

thanks, KL - i think i will wait till the sub-zero nonsense passes back out of here before i check it ;)
 
I was trying to answer the 2N post from HFJ. Not sure how this forum software works, must have clicked the wrong dohickey.
KL
 
Mike.........$18 was the price fer the IC-14 last time I priced it. Would it surprize you to learn EVERYTHING goes UP??? The point being, using a real 12-volt round can coil is better'n using the original 6-volt coil and 12-to-6 volt converting resistor. As an aside, the IC-14 has HOTTER sparkies than the converted 6-volt coil......Dell, yer self-appointed sparkie-meister
 
just like to add that in todays parts world, your ohmmeter is your friend.
I've seen a wide range of readings on new coils, no matter how they are labeled.

The chart Hobo posted will help ya out on price.
Here too, The IC14SB coil cost is getting pretty high.
Lots of options....recently saw the Standard T-series version
for $12 on ebay with free shipping.

I use what I got, prefer the 12v coil, but my tractors that got an old 6v coil and resistor out of the junk box run just as good.
(and I can jump around the resistor on cold day starts...shhh)
 
(quoted from post at 05:08:00 02/13/16) Mike.........$18 was the price fer the IC-14 last time I priced it. Would it surprize you to learn EVERYTHING goes UP??? The point being, using a real 12-volt round can coil is better'n using the original 6-volt coil and 12-to-6 volt converting resistor. As an aside, the IC-14 has HOTTER sparkies than the converted 6-volt coil......Dell, yer self-appointed sparkie-meister
I bought a 12V coil today but not from NAPA.
Standard Ignition brand UC15T. No external resistor required. $14.79
Good option for guys who have a parts store that sells the SI brand of parts.

Picked up a new set of SI BlueStreak points while I was there too.
I wish I could say they were as cheap as the coil!
 

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