Milkshake anyone?

Royse

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At least its not strawberry.
Anyone want take a WAG at where the transmission drain plug is?

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That what I experienced a little while
back.Just a reminder don't forget the
differential drain plug if you haven't
done it already. Three plugs total undee
there.
 
Job, that's water in the oil. Small amounts can be condensation.
That much? Likely parked outside and got in through the big
draft control spring on the back where your 3 pt hitch top link
hooks too. It can be cleaned out and replaced without any real
damage if it is caught soon enough. Check your fluids regularly.

Jason, yep, I got all three of them. Thanks!
 
Now Bob, where else would it be?
Yep, smack dab in the bottom of that mess! LOL
Well, it was an hour or so ago when I took the picture.
Back in the tractor now. :)
 
Water in the oil is caused by a lot of condensation or a bad shiftier boot which let rain water into the system
 
Anyone want take a WAG at where the transmission drain plug is?

Time to go panning for steel with your trusty extendo-magnet.
 
That shifter boot myth has been around forever.
John did a great job of proving it isn't true [b:086c427212]here.[/b:086c427212]
It's still a good idea to keep a good shifter boot on to keep dirt out.
 
"Time to go panning for steel with your trusty extendo-magnet."

That probably would have been a good option Terry.
Instead, I had a dirty rag handy and fished it out with my hand.
Rednecks have redneck ways I guess. LOL
 
(quoted from post at 20:00:31 02/06/16) That shifter boot myth has been around forever.
John did a great job of proving it isn't true [b:fcedeab2af]here.[/b:fcedeab2af]
It's still a good idea to keep a good shifter boot on to keep dirt out.

Nice link, thanks.
 
Fished a good many out of the pan with my hands but now days prefer the magnet on a rope or stick you do know oil causes cancer don't you LOL
 
I know for sure water down the shiftier on an 841 will in fact get lots of water in the transmission because ever since I replaced the boot on my 841 I have not had much if any water in the transmission
 
My 8n's are under cover out of the rain ands still the trans oil will look like that in a year or so. I have seen the outside of block and trans dripping condensation, no doubt the inside is the same.
 
"I have seen the outside of block and trans dripping condensation"

I've seen that in my pole barn too. Real easy to tell where the
level is in filled tires in that kind of temperature as well!
 
the condensation bothers me so much i'm thinking of running a hair drier for a bit through the shift plate hole on a dry day
before using allowing the condensation to escape, i know it's a bit extreem but it sure bothers me

dave
 
my tractors sit outside covered with canvas tarps year round. I have never noticed a problem with condensation and they only get run a few hours per year each. does it have something to do with the canvas cover or that I cover them leaving plenty of air flow around the machines?.? or what ?
 
Yep. My experience has been if you have a pan of old oil or antifreeze under the engine tools, nuts will fall to the ground (in the pan). If you don't they won't make it to the ground. Glad you got it out.
 
Engine oil is clean, Kirk. It was when I bought it.
It is supposed to be a newly rebuilt engine so it ought to be clean!
Now to make sure it stays that way during a break in period.

I had to drain the antifreeze to change that manifold that was
bolted on instead of using studs. AF looked to be brand new also.
Clean and bright green. No dirt, oil or combustion by-product in it.
 
It's a lot harder to remove emulsified water from oil that you might think, since the water must go through a phase change,from liquid to gas, and that requires pumping in a lot of heat. And the iron tranny/diff casing makes a huge heat sink for condensing out any moisture the air might hold. I know someone who tried putting a heater under the casing with the idea of evaporating the water, it did not do anything at all - probably because the water upon reaching a gaseous state would rise and contact the colder iron casing, and condense into water again. I did some experiments once trying to remove water from transmission lube by heating it to 140 F in an old crock pot. It worked, but took hours and hours, about 24 hours of heating to dry out each gallon. Emulsified water eventually will to a large degree settle out of the lube if the tractor sits for a while, after which is can be drained out by simply cracking the drainplugs slightly. What's left probably isn't worth worrying about - many lubrication engineers will tell you that emulsified oil is not nearly the hazard as free water is since each microscopic droplet of water is encapsulated in oil, which greatly reduces it's ability to corrode. I know my hydraulic pump and gearbox cluster are always bright and shiny when I drained the oil out of them, regardless of how yellow it might be.
 
When I purchased my Jubilee, the tranny was full, half oil, half water. I replaced the shifter boot
and Never leave any of my tractors outside. My problem went away and I rarely get condensation in
pole barn, usually in the spring and fall. Recently we had a 62 degree rainy day. Next morning in
the 30's. About every two years I have to change distributor cap and rotor on my GMC truck,
condensation inside shorted out the spark. You could see the moisture. So condensation can get
inside other places too. I never leave truck sitting outside either. Just takes the right
conditions and there goes the dist/cap.
 
I heard you could let the tractor set for a few weeks, crack the transmission drain plugs and the water would drain out,

As oil would rise to the top, water on the bottom,
I never tried this, just changed the oil every 5 years or so

My old tractor takes GL1 90 weight mineral oil which is getting harder to find, also does not pump so easy in cold weather,
But is not corosive to brass or bronze bearings
 
(quoted from post at 19:56:05 02/06/16) At least its not strawberry.

I'm a chocolate man myself. These are the only thing those stupid Silver Bullet gadgets are good for and I give ours a workout almost every evening ;-)

TOH

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