Hello. Long time reader but first time posting. I have a question about a front plow blade system I have the opportunity to purchase for my 9N. It is a Dearborn 19-1 Universal Frame and a 19-2 Angled Dozer Blade. The asking price is $150. I will be going to look at the next day or so. It appears to be complete looking at the ad pics, except for the rear mounting brackets. I was hoping to use this for light snow plowing on our cabin property located in northern lower Michigan. My questions are: Is this a good price- with or without the brackets? Has anybody improvised for any missing brackets in the past that could share some insight on fabricating new brackets, or having some made?? Or is it just rather too complicated and steer away from the setup all together and stick with our back blade?? Thanks, Dave
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You will like the front blade far better than the back blade Dave.
The older I get the more I appreciate not looking over my shoulder all day!
Mine is not a Dearborn but I just looked up those brackets in the
parts manual. I think they could be fabricated pretty easily.
You might even be able to use the universal brackets, but I can't say for sure.
The older I get the more I appreciate not looking over my shoulder all day!
Mine is not a Dearborn but I just looked up those brackets in the
parts manual. I think they could be fabricated pretty easily.
You might even be able to use the universal brackets, but I can't say for sure.
Those brackets look like they just bolt up under the fenders and
let the pin slip in the slot, then lock it in place with a hitch pin.
If the pin in the plow frame is movable/removable, you may get
it to line up with and slip into the universal brackets used for sway
bars. They bolt up under the fenders and have holes in four spots.
Picture of them below.
For that matter, you could make your own out of angle iron.
Price wise, if the blade is in good shape I don't think that would
be a bad price. If its all rusted out then maybe not such a good deal.
let the pin slip in the slot, then lock it in place with a hitch pin.
If the pin in the plow frame is movable/removable, you may get
it to line up with and slip into the universal brackets used for sway
bars. They bolt up under the fenders and have holes in four spots.
Picture of them below.
For that matter, you could make your own out of angle iron.
Price wise, if the blade is in good shape I don't think that would
be a bad price. If its all rusted out then maybe not such a good deal.
Ultradog MN
Well-known Member
- Location
- Twin Cities
I bought that same 19-1 / 19-2 plow set up
some years ago. It had the front brackets
but did not have the rear brackets.
I am a pretty fair welder and have welding
machine, torches, grinders, drills, etc at
home and it took me a whole day to
fabricate the rear brackets. They are more
complicated to duplicate than one might
think. No the brackets shown would not work
without major modification. One thing about
the original brackets (which I did not ad)
is they have hooks on them so with the
chains on the lift mechanism you can both
adjust how low the blade will drop and/or
hang the blade up so you don't need to keep
it lifted with the 3 point.
The $150 price is still a bargain even if
you will have more work in those rear
brackets than you expected.
I will also agree that those front blades,
when combined with rear ballast and good
tire chains will turn an N into a rather
marvelous little snow mover.
I don't remember if the 19-2 is the dozer
blade or the snow blade. I have had both.
The dozer is adequate but the snow blade is
superior as it has trip springs, outer
wings and is taller.
Do buy it. And have fun.
I enjoy plowing snow.
some years ago. It had the front brackets
but did not have the rear brackets.
I am a pretty fair welder and have welding
machine, torches, grinders, drills, etc at
home and it took me a whole day to
fabricate the rear brackets. They are more
complicated to duplicate than one might
think. No the brackets shown would not work
without major modification. One thing about
the original brackets (which I did not ad)
is they have hooks on them so with the
chains on the lift mechanism you can both
adjust how low the blade will drop and/or
hang the blade up so you don't need to keep
it lifted with the 3 point.
The $150 price is still a bargain even if
you will have more work in those rear
brackets than you expected.
I will also agree that those front blades,
when combined with rear ballast and good
tire chains will turn an N into a rather
marvelous little snow mover.
I don't remember if the 19-2 is the dozer
blade or the snow blade. I have had both.
The dozer is adequate but the snow blade is
superior as it has trip springs, outer
wings and is taller.
Do buy it. And have fun.
I enjoy plowing snow.
I'm glad you jumped in Jerry! As I said, mine is not a Dearborn
so I don't have first hand experience with it.
Is the chain hook you're talking about that "S" or "Z" shaped
bracket on the top toward the rear of the brackets?
I actually wondered what that was for as mine doesn't lift that
far back. Mine is a solid frame and lifts only at the front much
like a snow plow on the front of a pickup does.
In any event, it sure beats looking over your shoulder all day!
so I don't have first hand experience with it.
Is the chain hook you're talking about that "S" or "Z" shaped
bracket on the top toward the rear of the brackets?
I actually wondered what that was for as mine doesn't lift that
far back. Mine is a solid frame and lifts only at the front much
like a snow plow on the front of a pickup does.
In any event, it sure beats looking over your shoulder all day!
Thanks for the additional information Ultradog. I spoke with the owner last night. The tractor that the blade was used on was his father's and sold a few years ago. I'm thinking the brackets were probably still attached and sold with it. I'm pretty handy but not much of a metal guy at all and own no metal working tools other than a very small mig welder that I really don't know how to use yet. I was able to do some web searching and found several pics of the brackets, along with copies of the assembly and use instructions. The 19-2 is the dozer blade- no springs. Did you weld up flat stock or modify larger pieces of angle iron? Did you happen to take any pics while making yours? It looks like they'd need to be fairly stout, as they probably absorb all the rearward force as you are pushing forward.
Dave,
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TheOldHokie
Well-known Member
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- Myersville, MD
The brackets are just angle iron with a slot for the pin - 1/4" should be adequate - 3/8" would be overkill. The pin retaining tabs don't have to be bent up - they can be welded on - good practice for your mig. Or you could devise an entirely different scheme that didn't require welding.
The chain hook is just a second piece of lighter angle with a slot that can be welded to the bracket. It just needs to be functional -and you don't need an exact copy of the original design.
TOH
Thanks OldHokie. I'm actually thinking I may be able to rig something up that may work. Kirk sent me a great link with pics and dimensions of keys points that would assist in fabbing something up. I tried to post it but for some reason it wouldn't let me post it. If anybody else would like it I can email it. Thank you again to all who have responded and responded so quickly. This is really a great site!!
TheOldHokie
Well-known Member
- Location
- Myersville, MD
If the link was for the N Tractor club HowTo the reason you couldn;t post was this site will not allow any links to their site. I also have a couple different "dimensionsed" drawings put together by other folks but all are missing some dimensions that I consider critical....
Good luck - they are not rocket science and you have the plow to use as a dimensional reference. Just requires some time and effort to make something that fits properly.
TOH
I was very fortunate to have purchased two tractors with both of them having the rear plow frame bracket. the snowplow came with my 8N and when I sold that I modified the frame to fit my 671.
The brackets look like this: <a href="http://s135.photobucket.com/user/JackL_06/media/P8190014.jpg.html" target="_blank">
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Jack
The brackets look like this: <a href="http://s135.photobucket.com/user/JackL_06/media/P8190014.jpg.html" target="_blank">
Jack
Ultradog MN
Well-known Member
- Location
- Twin Cities
One of the best features of that push
frame is the ease of attaching and
detaching it from the tractor. Disconnect
the lift cables in front, pull two linch
pins and "keys" in the rear and drive away
from it. Attach in reverse order. Once
you've done it a time or two it can be
done in just a few minutes.
That was that feature I spent the most
time duplicating when I built the brackets
and keys.
Other ideas for brackets would work just
as well for pushing snow but would lack
that quick-tatch feature.
frame is the ease of attaching and
detaching it from the tractor. Disconnect
the lift cables in front, pull two linch
pins and "keys" in the rear and drive away
from it. Attach in reverse order. Once
you've done it a time or two it can be
done in just a few minutes.
That was that feature I spent the most
time duplicating when I built the brackets
and keys.
Other ideas for brackets would work just
as well for pushing snow but would lack
that quick-tatch feature.
Thanks Jack, Those are nice pics and will be helpful. I just got home from purchasing the package. Everything is there, including the square retaining washers.....Just no rear brackets. Apparently the tractor was stolen a few years back and the brackets were still attached.
Looks like one side of the front left cable sheave sides is cracked off a bit. It may work as is, but looks like it should be easy to find a comparable replacement.
Ultradog, I like the quick-tatch feature as well, and will make sure I incorporate into my design as well. I will do a bit more searching for some original brackets first.....Maybe I'll get lucky
Looks like one side of the front left cable sheave sides is cracked off a bit. It may work as is, but looks like it should be easy to find a comparable replacement.
Ultradog, I like the quick-tatch feature as well, and will make sure I incorporate into my design as well. I will do a bit more searching for some original brackets first.....Maybe I'll get lucky
Still working on locating a set of brackets before I fab my own but in the meantime I've decided to replace the cable sheaves. They are held in place with a type of shoulder bolt, with round heads recessed into the brackets. The nuts are rusted on solid and the bolts just spin in place with the nut. Silly question, but how do you remove the bolt and even then re-tighten the replacement set-up? I can cut the existing nut off if needed,but there is nothing on the bolt to put a wrench on or grab in any way to then re-tighten. I would like to save the bolts....What am I missing here??? Thanks, Dave
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