Potential starting point for a '39 9N

martyh

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Here are 3 pictures of a supposed 1939 9N I am considering as a base for my long term project 1939 9N. Asking price $1900. I'm sure there is room.
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I don't see any early 9N features in those pictures. Hinged gas tank lid, wrong wheels and hubs, dash doesn't look correct, single rib fenders all say later 9N or even 2N. Look at the rear trumpet; 9Ns have a solid casting where the fender bolts go thru.
 
I know and that's what drives me nuts. People claim all sorts of stuff. Sometimes out of ignorance, sometimes on purpose. I agree it has none of the visual cues. I'll need to get the serial number.
 
Yeah but I would call the engine the heart of it all. Whatever the engine is, that's what I'd consider the rest of the tractor so if it was a '39 but then got a later engine from a 2N, I'd probably consider it a 2N unless it had most of the other '39 attributes. This one I'm looking at can't be a '39 unless the engine is because nothing else fits.
 
Do all of the 9N's have the solid casting where the fender bolts go through? That could help a lot when looking at pictures.
 
I'm not following your logic on "it is whatever it's engine is".

so if I put a 39 9N engine into a 52 8n chassis.. whould I have a 39 9N? I don't think so. ;)
 
Yeah, that's like saying my 1966 Pontiac Tempest became a Chevy van because I replaced the dead OHC six with a SBC 350.

I get what you're trying to do, but you really should focus on finding one that has the maximum number of features that would be on a genuine '39 - and most of those will have to do with the tractor, not the engine...

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You might be taking that to extremes there Ed.lol. I meant something more along the lines of the correct trumpets with a ''39 engine. Stuff like
fenders, grill and steering wheel are bolt ons.. I wouldn't lose my mind if I had a safety starter. It's all academic as I'll hold out for a real '39.
 
Call me a heretic but are you sure you want to venture off on this endeavor?
You are probably 20 years late to be starting from scratch as most of the coveted parts are already hoarded away.
It would take years to find all the correct parts for even a late 39. And that's to say nothing of the thousands of $ you'd spend acquiring, rebuilding and restoring them.
Were it me I would save up my dough and buy one that was at least correct to begin with.
 
That's not a '39 9N...and yes, early 9N's had the solid axle bosses. This shows other signs of not being an early 9N though. No double ribbed fenders; hinged battery access door; though it has hat rims I suspect they are 10 x 28 and I see rust on one of them so that tells me they are or were loaded with Calcium Chloride. The taillight bracket is a Ferguson. Don't see the key switch on the lower right dash. Riveted rear hubs. Later, Jubilee and Hundred Series bumper, plus running boards but many added them as they were never stock. I'd bet the radiator is the later pressurized one as the black cap is a giveaway. Generator is a later one, most likely a 2N1000 model. So, no, not a 39. I'd pass...


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Not sure if I need to look up "heretic" lol, but yeah, I'd like to have a '39 if I can find one that's worth saving. I may dial that back a little and say I'd like to find a quality 9N of any year. I have ID'd a couple very nice, close to original 1940 9N's. Don't let me mislead anyone, I'd be USING this tractor and not trying to make it 100% correct. What I'd like to do is find a good basic '39 whether it has all the correct pieces or not. My questions about what to look for is helping me with the most basic of problems, finding a REAL 9N. Out of 12 claimed 9N's (not even '39 9N's) I saved links to, only 2 were really even 9N's! I'd like to find a 9N worth "saving". A $1500-$2000 tractor to haul home, and make run properly. Then tear it down to bead blast and repaint gray. Build it back up replacing parts as necessary to make a good looking and mechanically reliable 9N. It can have later fenders or the wrong steering wheel. I'd like it to have a real 9N axle, the I-beam radius rods and a '39 engine. It will definitely have the wrong tires and wheels on it for my use.
 
Marty, all I'll add is for you to keep looking until you find one that "feels" right for you. Given the age and relative rarity, it may take a while. When I started looking for an early 1960s VW back in the late 1990s, I looked at literally dozens before finding one that wasn't hacked up or rotted out, and that "felt" right. Ended up driving it as my daily in Atlanta, GA traffic for six years.

My 8N is not a perfect restoration, but it's a worker and still looks good from twenty feet… it was the wrong color and pretty butchered up when I bought it.

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Buy one of those 1940 9N's. They could have easily been built in late 1939 :lol: Run the numbers and find out.

Just sayin'....

Seriously though, good luck on your search. Hope you find the right one.
 
Marty-
I met with one of my old tractor buddies today and he has a nice early (39) 9N for sale. He said I could give you his phone number so email me and I will pass it on.

Tim
 

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