dirt scoop

steve19438 · Sep 23, 2015

picked this up last week. I had a dirt scoop years ago but I forget if I used stabilizer bars not.

so is it yay or nay to the s. bars?

thanks.

RM-MN · Sep 23, 2015

Try to put it on with stabilizers. Bet you can't. I use mine without.

Richard G. · Sep 23, 2015

My Standard brand scoop has the pins turned in like that. I have always used the stabilizers on it.
I hate having anything waving around on the hitch. Might have to use just one.
Richard in NW SC

rossow (mn) · Sep 23, 2015

I built my own scoop that has the same design as yours (shamelessly studied one at TSC and made my own for about $30). I use it with stabilizers, but I had to grind away part of the lynch pins that hold the scoop and bars on the lift arms -- the holes for the pins were half covered when I put the bars and scoop on the same lift-arm pins. I think you'll like your scoop. I haven't used either of my front-end loaders since I built the rear scoop.

Dean · Sep 23, 2015

I have an identical looking slip scoop with a different brand name.

I always use stabilizer bars with it.

Dean

Jim in Ma. · Sep 23, 2015

I think you mean SWAY bars. Yes you want sway bars on there to keep the scoop steady.
Just think about it, How are you going to lift or lower it with stabilizer bars on there?

souNdguy · Sep 23, 2015

for sure.. and use 2 if you can.

HCooke · Sep 23, 2015

I use mine without. Stays centered between the wheels. Mine is not reversible, so only used pulling.

Caryc · Sep 23, 2015

(quoted from post at 10:14:07 09/23/15) My Standard brand scoop has the pins turned in like that. I have always used the stabilizers on it.
I hate having anything waving around on the hitch. Might have to use just one.
Richard in NW SC

When using sway bars it's always a good idea to have one adjustable one. It's so much easier than fighting trying to get two solid bars to line up right.

wellmax99 · Sep 23, 2015

I have a Ford brand #706 scoop
I only use the stabilizer or sway bars when backing into the load.
when backing, the machine will move to one side or the other, this action puts stress on the lower arm check chains.

I do not want to break one of the check chains.
I have been pleased with the operation of the Ford brand scoop.

nice to have if you can not afford a front end loader.
scoop = poor boys front end loader.

Ken N Tx · Sep 24, 2015

(quoted from post at 12:04:46 09/23/15) picked this up last week. I had a dirt scoop years ago but I forget if I used stabilizer bars not.

so is it yay or nay to the s. bars?

thanks.

I had the same one sway bar worked for me..
.

Ultradog MN · Sep 24, 2015

I have the same scoop as Wellmax.
And like him, I only use stay bars if I was backing into a dirt pile. For forward use I don't bother.

steve19438 · Sep 24, 2015

I had the same scoop. sold it years ago. good piece of equipment.

Caryc · Sep 24, 2015

(quoted from post at 02:13:16 09/24/15) I have the same scoop as Wellmax.
And like him, I only use stay bars if I was backing into a dirt pile. For forward use I don't bother.

I guess I just don't understand why people would not use sway bars if they had them available. They certainly can't hurt anything.

When I got my 8N it did not come with sway bars. It only had the chains on it. I had the rollover box blade on it and a link on the chains was worn and it broke letting the blade swing into my right rear tire and taking a nice chunk out of one of the bar treads.

So I just don't understand questioning whether or not you should use them. They way I see it is, why not?

I don't have any ground engaging equipment like a plow so I have no experience with them. I only have a box blade and a Woods five foot mower and use the sway bars on both.

I guess if you're very careful with your guns, you don't need to use the safety either, but I would say you're a fool not to use it.

Some people may not use sway bars simply because they might be a PIA to get both of them to line up when hooking up the implement. But, that becomes a non issue when you have at least one adjustable sway bar.

No offense meant towards you Ultradog with this post. I only have the one tractor and have 5 acres to take care of along with all the dirt roads leading to my place so I can't afford to have that tractor down for repairs. So I take the time to hook up the sway bars.

Ultradog MN · Sep 24, 2015

And I was just starting to like you again
after your prior impertinence on this
matter...
Here's something I bit my tongue and didn't
mention the last 10 times you told us about
wrecking that tire:
Being a safe, attentive operator means
inspecting your tractor for wear and
defects on occasion. That inspection
includes your 3 point, check chains and
brackets. Had you done that you probably
wouldn't have broke a chain and wrecked
your tire. I inspect my tractors regularly
and recommend you start doing it too.

Caryc · Sep 24, 2015

(quoted from post at 16:21:11 09/24/15)
And I was just starting to like you again
after your prior impertinence on this
matter...
Here's something I bit my tongue and didn't
mention the last 10 times you told us about
wrecking that tire:
Being a safe, attentive operator means
inspecting your tractor for wear and
defects on occasion. That inspection
includes your 3 point, check chains and
brackets. Had you done that you probably
wouldn't have broke a chain and wrecked
your tire. I inspect my tractors regularly
and recommend you start doing it too.

I guess you must have missed when I said "no offense meant towards you on this post".

I've heard other people say that they have broken check chains. You also said that if I had inspected that check chain, it wouldn't have happened. Well if I would have had sway bars on it, it wouldn't have happened either. Unfortunately, I was a new tractor owner when that happened and it didn't occur to me that it might happen.

My reason for saying what I did in my post is to get people to think twice about using sway bars. It's simply another safety factor unless someone is just too lazy to put them on. The word lazy is not pointed at you, I'm speaking in generalities.

On one of my implements, I had to buy longer three point hitch pins because they weren't long enough to get the lift arms and the say bars on them. That could be another reason that some people don't bother to use them.

I was actually trying to give some helpful advice but since my story about taking a chunk out of a tire seems to annoy you, I will not post it again. Don't forget that there are probably new tractor owners on this forum that know nothing about sway bars, so I'll just leave it to you to educate all of them from now on since you seem like a guy who has never had an accident or done anything stupid around a tractor.

NoNewParts · Sep 24, 2015

ya I use em on most everything (except a bottom plow)
If the implement won't allow 2, I run one.
If the brand tractor doesn't allow them at all...I'll fab up some
chains/turnbuckles to limit swing.
I [i:615a47d6ad]hate[/i:615a47d6ad] breaking stuff. (takes away from my next tractor fund

)
Worst that can happen with some implements with sway bars...like a disk in tough ground...is you can't steer.
just pick it up before you hit that tree LOL

Ken N Tx · Sep 25, 2015

Lets get the terminology right..
.
Stay

Sway

Limit

gears · Sep 25, 2015

I've got that Leinbach scoop, love it.

I use sway bars - one is the standard red TSC the other is one I made out of chain, that makes it alot easier to line up, since there's 2 they're both working under tension (twist left pulls the RIGHT sway bar/chain, twist right pulls the left bar)

Tall T · Sep 25, 2015

Steve,

Your Leinbach bucket looks a little like mine.
I no longer consider mine a "Dirt Scoop" as in a "digger" but will only use it like a rear loader bucket with limited lift.

Wellmax's skookum red one on this thread is a digger AND a smaller bucket loader.

My mystery one complete with Sway Bars.

miner09 · Sep 25, 2015

Put the stabilizer bars on scoop first then on tractor after you raise lift.

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