How Quickly We Forget.....Safety Reminder

After several months of working on my 8n, I finally got it running well enough to be able to check out the hydraulics. I hooked the bush hog up made a
few adjustments and on a good note everything seems to be okay, lift going up and down and pto turning the blades. After making a couple of passes on
my property I headed back to where I park the tractor, it was then that it went bad. I have been warned both on this forum and by other 8n owners
about how the bush hog will push the tractor even with the clutch and brakes are all the way down. As I approached the parking area, I glanced back at
the bush hog to make sure it was still in the up position, when I looked forward I realized I had missed my mark and was heading towards my
granddaughters above ground pool. I tried to push the clutch and brakes to the ground, pulled it out of gear and begin turning the wheels away from
the pool, while it did slow down the tractor did not stop until it hit one of the support poles on the pool. Luckily the only damage was a bent pole,
but had I been going any faster I am sure the outcome would have been a lot worse. I wanted to share this because all it takes is a matter of a few
seconds for trajedy to happen, and it is easy to to forget the basic rules. I will buy the device that I believe is called a safety clutch for the pto
this weekend. Tractor Safe Everyone
 
The thing is called an ORC. Much needed on these tractors or it can get some one hurt or dead
 
Pulling it out of gear should have staunched forward motion.

Dont underestimate the engine either, dumping the throttle eats rpms..
 
Bought my 2N one wkend, following wkend picked up the ORC and 'then' went and got the rotory mower.
Heard enough horror stories here to know better.
 
I meant *exactly* what I said.. not what you think I said.

Knocking out of gear will get the drivetrain and pto away from each other.. otherwise any time you turned the pto the rear wheels will turn.. you are thinking about groundspeed pto.. N's don't have that.

remember, clutch down, pto in gear, AND TRANNY in gear, if you spin the pto, the rear wheels want to move.

if you have the tranny in neutral, and clutch down, and pto engaged and spin the pto... nothing happens... pto spins!

It's alot easier to snatch the main tranny out of gear in a panic than lean over and try to reach for that little lever and knock it out of gear.

remember, trans in neutral means no gear selected.. nothing for pto backfeed.

trans in gear = a direct connection for pto to backfeed.
 

I've been meaning to check to see if I have a ORC or not and if I don't I need to order one. Thanks for posting this thread. It reminded me I need to do that. I'm glad you are ok and didn't damage much.
 
"It's alot easier to snatch the main tranny out of gear in a panic than lean over and try to reach for that little lever and knock it out of gear."

SoundN,

Thanks for that; it answers questions I had.

All along I was wondering how the tractor could be propelled forward if the tranny was in neutral. I guess I should have asked. :)

I was also wondering in this thread why someone would be driving somewhere to park the tractor, with the cutter raised up but the PTO still engaged and the blades spinning. (?)

T
 
"I was also wondering in this thread why
someone would be driving somewhere to park
the tractor, with the cutter raised up but
the PTO still engaged and the blades
spinning. (?)"

Because he doesn't have live hydraulics.
The pto has to be engaged to lift the 3
point. He would have to remove the pto
driveline from the tractor to do otherwise.
Your Jube has live hydraulics so you can
shut off the pto and still raise the 3
point. Big advantage.
 
UD wrote:
"Because he doesn't have live hydraulics.
The pto has to be engaged to lift the 3
point. He would have to remove the pto
driveline from the tractor to do otherwise.
Your Jube has live hydraulics so you can
shut off the pto and still raise the 3
point. Big advantage."

Finally!
That puts it simply and to the point for me; i.e., the pto has to be engaged to lift the 3 point. I've been wanting to understand that but didn't want to appear too dopey so I never asked. :)

Live hydraulics indeed.

Thanks!
TT
 
(quoted from post at 10:56:00 08/27/15) Orc is easy to spot, big cyl on pto shaft about 2" diameter, making the pto stub set back farther.

I do have one on the tractor already so that's good to know. One less thing I have to buy.
 
None taken.

I just explained out the operation fir any newbies not familiar with the drivetrain to pto connection.

We are all good.
 

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