Dearborn 19-1 Universal Frame with Snow blade

DrWingnutz · Jul 19, 2015

Hi Folks,
I just registered with hope of finding some answers. I recently purchased a Dearborn Universal Frame with snow blade for my '47 8N. Some parts are missing, like the cables, and I'm curious if someone out there may have one and could give me the cable length? I found a few places that will fabricate new custom cables, still need a price quote, but obviously I need the length before hand. Yes, I could use string to get an idea but not ready to mount it just yet.
Also, where are you getting parts from, like the cable sheaves?

Thank you in advance! :roll:

RET-N-IA · Jul 19, 2015

It's gonna be kinda hard to answer that question without seeing what you have there and parts missing.Also how you're gonna mount it. I just checked my set up to measure and I have 9 feet of 5/16 ths plastic coated cable per side.I however connect mine to the lower lift arm with a cleavis type connection by drilling a 7/16 ths hole thru the arms for a bolt. As far as the pulleys,you can generic ones from a scrap yard. They are crude with no internal bearings so you can eyeball what you'll need by measuring the frame stud/shaft that they ride on. Did you get the front axle mounts with the frame? Most of the time those get left on the tractor. They can be had on the internet if you look though. HTH, Mike

Royse · Jul 19, 2015

Mine's not a Dearborn, but I just made my own cables.
I used thimbles and clamps like [b:baba12d4ae]these.[/b:baba12d4ae]

DrWingnutz · Jul 19, 2015

(quoted from post at 21:04:49 07/19/15) Mine's not a Dearborn, but I just made my own cables.
I used thimbles and clamps like [b:06bc99d417]these.[/b:06bc99d417]

Thank you. I've had the same idea but would have to fabricate something for a fine adjustment of the cable tension. I suppose I could use a bolt and weld a chain link to the bottom for cable attachment. You've got me thinking again.
Thanks!

Abbby · Jul 19, 2015

If you have a 12 volt conversion seems it would be much easier to put a winch on front and lift with that. Plus you can use your three point for a blade or something else while using your winch on front. I have not done this yet but have been considering it.

Charles Krammin · Jul 19, 2015

brackets for back mount. purchase stabilizer under fender from TSC. They are drilled and right width for J-1. fabricate 1 inch hole mounts and weld on fender mount. Keepers are welded edge and then square washers and then snap pin, to hold square washers on. Fabricate and weld chain hooks on back of bracket (then you can use 3 point, without taking plow frame off).
Front side pressure slides can be made out of 1 1/2" angle iron for both axle mount and 16 1/2" down.

Cables with clamps an eyes as other stated.

not sure on cable shieves. may have to have custom machined.

I jacked frame up in place on fender mounts and then tacked welded. Same on front mount

"N-News" sells manual.

Charles SW MI

Royse · Jul 19, 2015

(quoted from post at 20:33:42 07/19/15)

(quoted from post at 21:04:49 07/19/15) Mine's not a Dearborn, but I just made my own cables.
I used thimbles and clamps like [b:6fb827dc8c]these.[/b:6fb827dc8c]

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Thank you. I've had the same idea but would have to fabricate something for a fine adjustment of the cable tension. I suppose I could use a bolt and weld a chain link to the bottom for cable attachment. You've got me thinking again.
Thanks!

Mine's not all that fussy, but a heavy spring in line with the
cable and an eye bolt hooked into the end of the spring would
still lift the plow and let you adjust the tension as well as
letting it give if you were to hit something unexpected.

DrWingnutz · Jul 20, 2015

(quoted from post at 20:54:18 07/19/15) It's gonna be kinda hard to answer that question without seeing what you have there and parts missing.Also how you're gonna mount it. I just checked my set up to measure and I have 9 feet of 5/16 ths plastic coated cable per side.I however connect mine to the lower lift arm with a cleavis type connection by drilling a 7/16 ths hole thru the arms for a bolt. As far as the pulleys,you can generic ones from a scrap yard. They are crude with no internal bearings so you can eyeball what you'll need by measuring the frame stud/shaft that they ride on. Did you get the front axle mounts with the frame? Most of the time those get left on the tractor. They can be had on the internet if you look though. HTH, Mike

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Thank you both for the info. All the necessary brackets did come with the unit. I already have a copy of the original manual which I used to make sure I knew what I was looking for. I have attached copies of the manual to give you a visual. I'd rather not go electric. Even though I did convert to 12 volt, someday I will go back to original, repair sheet metal and paint proper colors but not in the immediate future.
Thanks again!
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Jeff from Erieville · Jul 20, 2015

I have the exact same set up, it is awesome. I would not over think the cables too much. Unless of course you are looking for originality. You will only be able to lift this system just so high, and the cables need some slack or the blade won't touch the ground when you drop it. Guess how I know

I used the pieces Royse did to fashion my cables. Slid a washer over the front of the cable and looped it. I then added a six inch piece of chain to the back end of each cable. Makes it easy to adjust length and attach to the back bar with a pin.

DrWingnutz · Jul 21, 2015

Thanks for the input. At some point I would like to have it as it was manufactured but that time is not now. I have thought of using chain links as well. I did find a company that has all types of sheaves; cable and chain. I will forward that site later.

Thank you all so much for all of your input!!

DrWingnutz · Jul 24, 2015

Gentlemen,
I wanted to pass these along for future reference. Web sites for cable sheaves. e-rigging seems to have better pricing.

http://www.cablesheaves.net/

http://www.e-rigging.com/stainless-Sheaves-and-Pulleys

I live in rural Maine and when scrap prices soared a few years ago, darn near everything in the state was scrapped. Most of the recyclers in the state are owned by big foreign companies and will not sell off anything; against their policy so I was told. It's difficult to find any "old" stuff most anywhere anymore.

Thanks again for your contributions everyone!

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