Replaced wire harness and now I do not have any spark to the plugs. I'm pretty sure harness is right as I did continuity test on all wires I removed to make sure I got the new one right. Had spark at top of coil but not sure how to test the coil to make sure its okay. Anyone have any ideas??? Also ran the tractor for couple weeks with negative ground. It ran fine. Now that I changed the harness and did a polarity check after I switched back to positive ground. Have not check points or condensor. Could they be at fault. Could anything have burnt when I hooked the battery up wrong? The tractor turns over good when I try to start it. Anyone have any ideas as where to start.
 
6v or 12v?

Front or side distributor?

Check for battery voltage at the coil; should be battery voltage with the points open and about half that when closed.

Post back with results and we'll go from there.
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Tom.........gonna make a WAG (wild A$$ guess) that yer talkin' bout the weird 4-nipple front mount dizzy. There is 'nuttin' in yer tractor that is polarity sensitive, so negative (-) or positive (+) ground is only a semi-issue. You do know the weird 4-nipple dizzy points (0.015") are designed to be replaced or adjusted on the kitchen table, don't you? Just un-snapple yer capple and remove the 2-bolts and walk to the kitchen. Adjust/replace the points (0.015"). Remember to "polish" the INVISIBLE corrosion from between the points. Me? I use the corner of $1-bill and pull. Now take yer dizzy back to the tractor and finger install the 2-bolts. Replace yer rotor and rotate yer OFF-SET tang so it fits yer camshaft OFF-SET drive slot. Now tighten yer 2-bolts and re-snapple yer capple. The OFF-SET drive scheme means you don't haffta worry about timing yer dizzy. How to check the wierd 4-nipple 1-terminal square coil? NOT EAZILY. Repair is by replacement. While the 6-volt square can coil is not as robust as we'd like it to be, its major problem is shadetree mechanic wanna bees. Learning how to set the points (0.015) and NOT leaving the ignition switch on will keep yer square can coil living a long time. .......HTH, Dell, yer self-appointed sparkie-meister
 
if you have power to the coil on a front mount.. but no spark, make sur ethe coil is seated good, next check points.

post back with more info
 
Check old coil and it did not pass continuity check. replaced coil and reset points. After install I still did not have spark. I removed the coil/distributor and recheck coil it passed continuity check. Upon checking the point I noticed they were almost closed when on the high point of cam. For some reason they must have moved after I installed dist. on tractor. I removed points and cleaned them again. When I re-installed them I notice I could not get gag any larger then .015. Shouldn't they open further then this. I had one heck of a time resetting them as every time I tighten up the mounting screws the gag would close up. I finally got them set and back on tractor but not have tried them yet. Any ideas as to why they wont stay set? and how can I get a wider gap. Eccentric screw does not look worn or does the points base.
 
Turn the key on.

Put one probe on the wire leading into the top of the coil & the other on the block.

If the points are open, you will see battery voltage. If they are closed, you will see about half that.

If you have voltage to the coil, the problem is in the distributor.

Pull the distributor off the tractor.

The first thing you need to check is bushing wear. If the shaft has any sideways movement AT ALL, the bushings must be replaced.

Make sure you are using quality points. I use only Wells, Blue Streak or Echlin brand points. Be careful not to ground the tip of the condenser wire to the body of the distributor when you replace the points. Do not break the little copper strip that go to the points. (If you do, make another out of the old set of points). Also, make sure the condenser wire does not go through the same opening in the distributor as the coil pig tail. The condenser wire goes through the opening on the top right.

Look at the old points; are they burned, pitted or misaligned? Check the point gap, .015 on all four lobes. Make sure the blade is at a perfect right angle to the points. You want to feel just the slightest bit of drag when you pull the blade through the points. Set the points on the high side of the cam and ensure they align correctly. Make sure you have the star washers under the screws on the points. If you need to replace the 8-32 X .19 fillister head screws, ensure that the new screws do not interfere with the advance weights. Dress the points by running a piece of card stock or a brown paper bag through them. New points sometimes have an anti-corrosive dielectric coating on them & old points can corrode or pick up grease from a dirty feeler gauge or excessive cam lubricant. And, don’t forget to lube the rubbing block w/ cam lube; not Vaseline, not bearing grease, but cam lube.

If you are using quality points and cannot get the gap to open to .015, chances are you need to replace the bushings.

Assuming that the bushings & advance weights are ok (*see below), & that you have correct voltage to the coil (battery voltage with the points open and about half that with the points closed), the most common electrical failure (no spark, weak spark) points on the front mount are:

1. The insulator under the brass concave head screw & where the copper strip attaches. (it’s fiber & will wear out; poke & prod w/ your meter leads to make sure it still works) If you need to replace the insulator, use a .250 x 3/8 nylon square nylon anchor nut available at most big box home stores

2. The pigtail at the bottom of the coil not making contact w/ the concave head brass screw inside the distributor. (With the coil on, the pigtail must firmly contact the brass screw. No contact = no spark

3. The copper strip is broken or grounded to the plate. (look very carefully for cracks & breaks).

4. The condenser wire grounding to the plate or side of the distributor.

5. The tab on the bottom of the coil not making contact w/ the brass button on the cap. (With the cap on, the tab must firmly contact the brass button. No contact = no spark.)

6. Incorrect positioning of the spring clip on the plate causing the pigtail to ground. (the open part of the clip goes between 7 & 9 o’clock on the plate. That puts the straight part of the clip opposite of the timing screw at 3 o’clock)

7. Incorrect seating of the coil on the distributor due to a loose bail or no gasket.(the coil must not move at all; if it does, replace the gasket or bail. Or stick some cardboard under the bail).

8. Water/moisture inside the cap due to gasket failure or the absence of a gasket. (the cap AND coil have gaskets)

9. Dirty/corroded/burned/incorrectly gapped or misaligned points. I use only Wells, Blue Streak or Echlin brand points (* *see below).

10. Burned rotor, cracked/carbon tracked cap.

After find the problem & re-check the point gap, do a continuity check before you put the distributor back on the tractor. Before you start, make sure your meter/light works.

With the distributor still off the tractor, follow these steps:

1. Coil off, cap off, points open. One probe on the brass screw & the other on both sides of the open points. On the side closest to the cam, you should have continuity. Not on the other side! If you do, you will also have continuity everywhere because the points are grounded.

2. Coil off, cap off, points open. One probe on the brass screw & the other anywhere on the body of the distributor. You should have no continuity! Now, rotate the tang on the distributor....as the points open & close, you have continuity (closed) and lose it when they open.

3. Put the coil on the distributor, cap off, points open. One probe on the lead on the top of the coil, the other on the cam side of the open points. You should have continuity!

4. Coil on, cap off, points open. One probe on the lead on the top of the coil, the other anywhere on the body of the distributor. You should have no continuity!

At this point, I just put the distributor, coil & cap all back on the tractor as a unit. The reason I do this is because it is real easy to get the cap or coil misaligned trying to put it back together, one piece at a time. The result is something gets broken or you get a ‘no spark’ problem.

It's possible to put it back on wrong & break it. Look at the slot on the end of the cam shaft. Whatever angle it happens to be, turn the distributor tang to match it. Make sure you can tell the wide side from the narrow side on both the cam & distributor! (close counts). Place the distributor on the front of the engine, gently push it in place & slowly turn the distributor body until you feel the tang slip into the slot. Rotate the distributor body until the bolt holes line up. Hand tighten the two bolts until the distributor body is flush with the timing gear cover.


* Unscrew the plate hold down screw & remove the C clip to get the plate out. Remove the shaft & weights. The weights should freely move.


* *NAPA part numbers:

• Points: FD-6769X

• Condenser: FD-71

• Rotor: FD-104

• Cap: FD-126
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After replacing the dist cap and rotor I finally got the 8n running. Had to remove a burr off the mounting plate where the point screw down also. Replace one of the screws and washer to make points stay in place. New dist cap was not exactly right either. The rotor would hit as it revolved by hand. Luckily I did this by hand as I'm sure it would have broken the new rotor. Turn rotor both ways to make sure I had clearance. At least now I know I replaced the wireing harness right. Pays to take things real slow when changing the harness. Thanks to all who helped me on this.
 

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