propane as starting fluid

sam in nc

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JMOR - You suggested using propane as a starting fluid - Now I'm curious as to what source of propane do you use and how do you introduce the propane to the carburetor?
 
Yes, that is easy. Do you just hook up a hose to propane cylinder and put that into the mouth of the carb?
 
(quoted from post at 00:05:34 07/02/15) Yes, that is easy. Do you just hook up a hose to propane cylinder and put that into the mouth of the carb?
or a starting fluid just use a propane cylinder and torch head used for soldering. You only need a very small amount of propane to blow the head off. Why reinvent something when starting fluid is cheap and easy to get?
 
ps.. regular start fluid, if neede dis my choice on a gasser.. never saw a need for propane start fluid on a gasser.. but whatever..
 
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(quoted from post at 00:05:34 07/02/15) Yes, that is easy. Do you just hook up a hose to propane cylinder and put that into the mouth of the carb?
or a starting fluid just use a propane cylinder and torch head used for soldering. You only need a very small amount of propane to blow the head off. Why reinvent something when starting fluid is cheap and easy to get?
ecause you can run it as long as you need to for trouble shooting on propane, it is cleaner, safer, it won't leave liquid sitting in carb intake tract to burn in event of backfire, cheaper, probably more. No re-invention.
 
"You only need a very small amount of propane to blow the head off."

Can you quote ONE verifiable example of this ever happening?
 
(quoted from post at 11:27:44 07/01/15) "You only need a very small amount of propane to blow the head off."

Can you quote ONE verifiable example of this ever happening?
ell, Bob......you know, with propane having less energy & making less HP, even with a converted engine having a higher compression ratio, why wouldn't anyone expect it to "blow the head off"???? :twisted:

Further advantage is that it will never foul a spark plug.
If your fuel pump goes out, you can even drive to the store on your Bar-B-Q tank to pick up a new one! That is a high flow fish cooker regulator with enough to run a big V8.
 
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(quoted from post at 11:21:38 07/01/15)
(quoted from post at 00:05:34 07/02/15) Yes, that is easy. Do you just hook up a hose to propane cylinder and put that into the mouth of the carb?
or a starting fluid just use a propane cylinder and torch head used for soldering. You only need a very small amount of propane to blow the head off. Why reinvent something when starting fluid is cheap and easy to get?
ecause you can run it as long as you need to for trouble shooting on propane, it is cleaner, safer, it won't leave liquid sitting in carb intake tract to burn in event of backfire, cheaper, probably more. No re-invention.

All true , but then you are running it on propane not just starting, and you would need to plumb it in somehow to run very long not jsut spray it in like starting fluid. Engines do run good on propane, but the post was on using it as starting fluid.
 
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(quoted from post at 00:26:28 07/02/15)
(quoted from post at 11:21:38 07/01/15)
(quoted from post at 00:05:34 07/02/15) Yes, that is easy. Do you just hook up a hose to propane cylinder and put that into the mouth of the carb?
or a starting fluid just use a propane cylinder and torch head used for soldering. You only need a very small amount of propane to blow the head off. Why reinvent something when starting fluid is cheap and easy to get?
ecause you can run it as long as you need to for trouble shooting on propane, it is cleaner, safer, it won't leave liquid sitting in carb intake tract to burn in event of backfire, cheaper, probably more. No re-invention.

All true , but then you are running it on propane not just starting, and you would need to plumb it in somehow to run very long not jsut spray it in like starting fluid. Engines do run good on propane, but the post was on using it as starting fluid.
o, Ron, on that little red Tracker, the hose is just stuck into the air inlet, hood closed on it to hold it in place. Sorry. Head still in place, too.
 
(quoted from post at 00:27:44 07/02/15) "You only need a very small amount of propane to blow the head off."

Can you quote ONE verifiable example of this ever happening?

Not at all, just my way of saying be careful with a flammable.
 
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(quoted from post at 00:26:28 07/02/15)
(quoted from post at 11:21:38 07/01/15)
(quoted from post at 00:05:34 07/02/15) Yes, that is easy. Do you just hook up a hose to propane cylinder and put that into the mouth of the carb?
or a starting fluid just use a propane cylinder and torch head used for soldering. You only need a very small amount of propane to blow the head off. Why reinvent something when starting fluid is cheap and easy to get?
ecause you can run it as long as you need to for trouble shooting on propane, it is cleaner, safer, it won't leave liquid sitting in carb intake tract to burn in event of backfire, cheaper, probably more. No re-invention.

All true , but then you are running it on propane not just starting, and you would need to plumb it in somehow to run very long not jsut spray it in like starting fluid. Engines do run good on propane, but the post was on using it as starting fluid.
o, Ron, on that little red Tracker, the hose is just stuck into the air inlet, hood closed on it to hold it in place. Sorry. Head still in place, too.

fire waiting to happen!
 
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(quoted from post at 13:40:24 07/01/15)
(quoted from post at 00:26:28 07/02/15)
(quoted from post at 11:21:38 07/01/15)
(quoted from post at 00:05:34 07/02/15) Yes, that is easy. Do you just hook up a hose to propane cylinder and put that into the mouth of the carb?
or a starting fluid just use a propane cylinder and torch head used for soldering. You only need a very small amount of propane to blow the head off. Why reinvent something when starting fluid is cheap and easy to get?
ecause you can run it as long as you need to for trouble shooting on propane, it is cleaner, safer, it won't leave liquid sitting in carb intake tract to burn in event of backfire, cheaper, probably more. No re-invention.

All true , but then you are running it on propane not just starting, and you would need to plumb it in somehow to run very long not jsut spray it in like starting fluid. Engines do run good on propane, but the post was on using it as starting fluid.
o, Ron, on that little red Tracker, the hose is just stuck into the air inlet, hood closed on it to hold it in place. Sorry. Head still in place, too.

fire waiting to happen!
O! NOT "waiting", there is fire in all four little cylinders.

Seriously, there is a less likely hood of setting one on fire with propane than with gasoline or starting fluid. With those two, the fire burns until all the liquid is consumed, but with propane there is only the fraction of a second flash until the gaseous mix is gone.
 
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(quoted from post at 14:23:43 07/01/15)
(quoted from post at 02:43:03 07/02/15)
(quoted from post at 13:40:24 07/01/15)
(quoted from post at 00:26:28 07/02/15)
(quoted from post at 11:21:38 07/01/15)
(quoted from post at 00:05:34 07/02/15) Yes, that is easy. Do you just hook up a hose to propane cylinder and put that into the mouth of the carb?
or a starting fluid just use a propane cylinder and torch head used for soldering. You only need a very small amount of propane to blow the head off. Why reinvent something when starting fluid is cheap and easy to get?
ecause you can run it as long as you need to for trouble shooting on propane, it is cleaner, safer, it won't leave liquid sitting in carb intake tract to burn in event of backfire, cheaper, probably more. No re-invention.

All true , but then you are running it on propane not just starting, and you would need to plumb it in somehow to run very long not jsut spray it in like starting fluid. Engines do run good on propane, but the post was on using it as starting fluid.
o, Ron, on that little red Tracker, the hose is just stuck into the air inlet, hood closed on it to hold it in place. Sorry. Head still in place, too.

fire waiting to happen!
O! NOT "waiting", there is fire in all four little cylinders.

Seriously, there is a less likely hood of setting one on fire with propane than with gasoline or starting fluid. With those two, the fire burns until all the liquid is consumed, but with propane there is only the fraction of a second flash until the gaseous mix is gone.

It is the laying of the hose in the inlet of carb that I question the wisdom of. In a fractor of a second the hood would be gone.
 
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(quoted from post at 14:23:43 07/01/15)
(quoted from post at 02:43:03 07/02/15)
(quoted from post at 13:40:24 07/01/15)
(quoted from post at 00:26:28 07/02/15)
(quoted from post at 11:21:38 07/01/15)
(quoted from post at 00:05:34 07/02/15) Yes, that is easy. Do you just hook up a hose to propane cylinder and put that into the mouth of the carb?
or a starting fluid just use a propane cylinder and torch head used for soldering. You only need a very small amount of propane to blow the head off. Why reinvent something when starting fluid is cheap and easy to get?
ecause you can run it as long as you need to for trouble shooting on propane, it is cleaner, safer, it won't leave liquid sitting in carb intake tract to burn in event of backfire, cheaper, probably more. No re-invention.

All true , but then you are running it on propane not just starting, and you would need to plumb it in somehow to run very long not jsut spray it in like starting fluid. Engines do run good on propane, but the post was on using it as starting fluid.
o, Ron, on that little red Tracker, the hose is just stuck into the air inlet, hood closed on it to hold it in place. Sorry. Head still in place, too.

fire waiting to happen!
O! NOT "waiting", there is fire in all four little cylinders.

Seriously, there is a less likely hood of setting one on fire with propane than with gasoline or starting fluid. With those two, the fire burns until all the liquid is consumed, but with propane there is only the fraction of a second flash until the gaseous mix is gone.

It is the laying of the hose in the inlet of carb that I question the wisdom of. In a fractor of a second the hood would be gone.
minute ago it was plumbing. Now it is laying of hose. Ron , do you have any experience starting on propane or... Are you just talking?
 
If you feel it is safe then just do it, but I would not advise someone else to do so. Using it a starting fluid is one thing but running a truck like your picture shows I think is just plain unsafe and I would not do it at all. Will say no more on this subject.
 
(quoted from post at 16:13:06 07/01/15) If you feel it is safe then just do it, but I would not advise someone else to do so. Using it a starting fluid is one thing but running a truck like your picture shows I think is just plain unsafe and I would not do it at all. Will say no more on this subject.
guess, that means no experience with it. I never said it was safe to drive around with a propane tank in the passenger compartment, nor did I advise it, even though you chose to move away from 'starting ' with propane, however, I will say that if you never ventured away from "safe" in you life, you must have had a boring life.
 
JMOR,
In the early 70's after the gas embargo, gas shortages, I knew a man who had a F250.
He had a large propane tank in bed and 2 gas tanks on truck. He pulled a 28 ft trailer
to Rockport, Tx in the winter, then back to Indiana in spring. He said in winter he
had to start on gas. After truck warmed up he could switch over to propane.

That said, I wonder how well propane would work in winter? Perhaps the man needed hot
water in truck to convert propane form a liquid state to a gas state.

Why couldn't you use a small propane torch for a source of propane gas? Personally I
just carry a can of either in truck, one on each generator. I like my hair too much.
 
(quoted from post at 18:01:21 07/01/15) JMOR,
In the early 70's after the gas embargo, gas shortages, I knew a man who had a F250.
He had a large propane tank in bed and 2 gas tanks on truck. He pulled a 28 ft trailer
to Rockport, Tx in the winter, then back to Indiana in spring. He said in winter he
had to start on gas. After truck warmed up he could switch over to propane.

That said, I wonder how well propane would work in winter? Perhaps the man needed hot
water in truck to convert propane form a liquid state to a gas state.

Why couldn't you use a small propane torch for a source of propane gas? Personally I
just carry a can of either in truck, one on each generator. I like my hair too much.
utane plays out around freezing, propane works colder.
 
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(quoted from post at 16:13:06 07/01/15) If you feel it is safe then just do it, but I would not advise someone else to do so. Using it a starting fluid is one thing but running a truck like your picture shows I think is just plain unsafe and I would not do it at all. Will say no more on this subject.
guess, that means no experience with it. I never said it was safe to drive around with a propane tank in the passenger compartment, nor did I advise it, even though you chose to move away from 'starting ' with propane, however, I will say that if you never ventured away from "safe" in you life, you must have had a boring life.
Some of the things I have done in my life would probably scare the heck out of you, but I still don't like red neck engineering.
 
(quoted from post at 18:57:30 07/01/15)
(quoted from post at 05:21:45 07/02/15)
(quoted from post at 16:13:06 07/01/15) If you feel it is safe then just do it, but I would not advise someone else to do so. Using it a starting fluid is one thing but running a truck like your picture shows I think is just plain unsafe and I would not do it at all. Will say no more on this subject.
guess, that means no experience with it. I never said it was safe to drive around with a propane tank in the passenger compartment, nor did I advise it, even though you chose to move away from 'starting ' with propane, however, I will say that if you never ventured away from "safe" in you life, you must have had a boring life.
Some of the things I have done in my life would probably scare the heck out of you, but I still don't like red neck engineering.
on't like. Don't do. Free country. But why try to beat me up?
 
(quoted from post at 08:16:47 07/02/15)
(quoted from post at 18:57:30 07/01/15)
(quoted from post at 05:21:45 07/02/15)
(quoted from post at 16:13:06 07/01/15) If you feel it is safe then just do it, but I would not advise someone else to do so. Using it a starting fluid is one thing but running a truck like your picture shows I think is just plain unsafe and I would not do it at all. Will say no more on this subject.
guess, that means no experience with it. I never said it was safe to drive around with a propane tank in the passenger compartment, nor did I advise it, even though you chose to move away from 'starting ' with propane, however, I will say that if you never ventured away from "safe" in you life, you must have had a boring life.
Some of the things I have done in my life would probably scare the heck out of you, but I still don't like red neck engineering.
on't like. Don't do. Free country. But why try to beat me up?

Was not trying to beat you up at all, but when you posted the pictures it looked unsafe and i was just pointing that out.
I think your advice on this forum is some of the best and like reading what you have to say.
Have a good day.
 
(quoted from post at 19:26:38 07/01/15)
(quoted from post at 08:16:47 07/02/15)
(quoted from post at 18:57:30 07/01/15)
(quoted from post at 05:21:45 07/02/15)
(quoted from post at 16:13:06 07/01/15) If you feel it is safe then just do it, but I would not advise someone else to do so. Using it a starting fluid is one thing but running a truck like your picture shows I think is just plain unsafe and I would not do it at all. Will say no more on this subject.
guess, that means no experience with it. I never said it was safe to drive around with a propane tank in the passenger compartment, nor did I advise it, even though you chose to move away from 'starting ' with propane, however, I will say that if you never ventured away from "safe" in you life, you must have had a boring life.
Some of the things I have done in my life would probably scare the heck out of you, but I still don't like red neck engineering.
on't like. Don't do. Free country. But why try to beat me up?

Was not trying to beat you up at all, but when you posted the pictures it looked unsafe and i was just pointing that out.
I think your advice on this forum is some of the best and like reading what you have to say.
Have a good day.
ave a good evening.
 
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(quoted from post at 00:26:28 07/02/15)
(quoted from post at 11:21:38 07/01/15)
(quoted from post at 00:05:34 07/02/15) Yes, that is easy. Do you just hook up a hose to propane cylinder and put that into the mouth of the carb?
or a starting fluid just use a propane cylinder and torch head used for soldering. You only need a very small amount of propane to blow the head off. Why reinvent something when starting fluid is cheap and easy to get?
ecause you can run it as long as you need to for trouble shooting on propane, it is cleaner, safer, it won't leave liquid sitting in carb intake tract to burn in event of backfire, cheaper, probably more. No re-invention.

All true , but then you are running it on propane not just starting, and you would need to plumb it in somehow to run very long not jsut spray it in like starting fluid. Engines do run good on propane, but the post was on using it as starting fluid.

JMOR post is mainly to use LP as a diagnostic tool... I don't think he meant it to be a permanent solution... LP regulated correctly will get it into the shop on its on power, diagnosis a lean condition, find vacuum leaks :D ... If you are others don't get it have fun chasing your tail...

Its got me out of many a jam... The issue I have is getting enuff to it to just drive it into the shop under power. The bigger the engine the more it takes to keep it running I like the fish cooker I.D. and will use it...

I have used a small propane bottle rigged up like his set up to eliminate fuel/vacuum leaks as a issue on many a driveability problem. GM even issued it as a essential tool :shock:
 

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