OT - Dodge Bros. carburetor help

Detroit Lubricator-Stewart carburetor. The main fuel circuit consists of a brass air valve (red) that lifts the main jet seat up off the upright main jet needle. Originally the air valve was swaged to the seat (yellow), but that broke. The seat is intact and can be inserted into the air valve, but it falls out. Should this be silver soldered?

(any used carburetor that I could find would probably be worse than the one I've got.)

Thanks!

Bill........BRASS silvers solders nicely. Be certain to use the correct FLUX........DELL

Bill, I rebuild a lot of carbs, but must admit I have
ZERO experience with the one on you Dodge Brothers.

If it were originally swaged, SS would probably hold fine.
Just be very careful not to get it where it shouldn't be
and to not do any damage that can't be undone.

Looks like an awesome example of a DB.
Want to share more pictures with us?

Thanks for the advice, boys! Here you go, Royse. It is a fun old car.
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And a beauty at that Bill! Thanks for the picture!

To keep it Ford related were do you think the Dodge Bro's got the money to start there on car line...

"To keep it Ford related were do you think the Dodge Bro's got the money to start there on car line..."

I would think it came from their time working for R. E. Olds.
Of course, they invested that money in Ford.
And the rest, as they say, is history!

Funny how a lot of people think this intermingling of brands is new.
Carol Shelby anyone? :twisted:

Like the oil can holder....

Question... Is that a line feeding oil into the intake from what looks like an oil filter?

Henry outsourced parts from the Dodge Bro's... He brought them out so he could produce parts under his roof. With Henry's money ( Best I remember into days money 300K) they started there on car Co.

I may be wrong but I think this was on the national geographic Chanel a week are so ago I caught the last haft of it... Or I may have read it in a mag a few weeks ago....

http://dodgemotorcar.com/history/dodge_ford.php

No, that's a gasoline vacuum tank. That's what they used before fuel pumps. A float, lever and spring mechanism in the vacuum tank uses manifold vacuum to draw gas from the main tank and hold it in the vacuum tank at the correct level. From the vacuum tank it's gravity feed to the carb.

The reason they started using fuel pumps a few years later was because you have zero manifold vacuum at wide open throttle. Since these cars were quite underpowered, drivers tended to use full throttle going up hills. Then they would run out of gas in the vacuum tank and have to stop and let the car idle in order to draw more fuel into the vacuum tank. Although the car's instruction manual advised you to use only 80% throttle going up hills (you don't really seem to get any more power out of that last 20%), owners usually ignored the warning.

Ford really wanted the Dodge Bros. to keep supplying him with various parts for his cars because he liked their stuff, but they insisted on being paid Cash On Delivery. Ford wanted to pay them when the cars were sold, like he did with his other suppliers. After a few years of disputing the issue, Ford finally offered to give the Brothers 10% of the stock in Ford Motor Corp if he could instead pay them when the cars were sold. The Dodge Bros. agreed. Then for the next 7 years or so the Brothers tried to get Ford to modernize the Model T by installing an electric starter; a distributor rather than tickler timing; and a water pump rather than thermosyphon cooling, but Henry refused. He wanted to make the cheapest car possible for the masses. So the Bothers eventually quit the relationship and used the dividends from their Ford stock to build a big forge in their factory and to begin making their own car. A serious automaker had to have his own forge because forged chassis parts were necessary and it cost too much to send them out to a forging shop, as small carmakers were forced to do.

Ford tried to cut off their dividends by turning the corporation into a charity that wouldn't pay dividends, but the Brothers sued and won, and eventually Ford had to buy their stock back from them at a high price. They put that money into their factory, too. Interestingly, despite their business and legal disputes, Ford and the Brothers always remained friends.

And I almost forgot, to keep it REALLY Ford-related; at one point Henry also tried to plow all of the Ford Corp's profits into the (separate) Fordson Corporation in order to deprive the Brothers of their dividends!

What model is the carb? I believe I have a Detroit Lubricator, maybe you can use it?