Pertronic Ignition Got Water In It

KCTractors · May 27, 2015

Just installed a Pertronic Ignition 6 volt front distributor with the round can conversion. The tractor was standing outside for maybe a week during 2" inches of rain. The tractor started good, about 15 minutes of running it just died. After checking the gas, that was not it. Checked spark, very weak. I took the distributor off and as I was removing it , the water was just drooling out of the distributor. I am wondering if I wrecked the electronic ignition.

JMOR · May 27, 2015

(quoted from post at 23:16:13 05/27/15) Just installed a Pertronic Ignition 6 volt front distributor with the round can conversion. The tractor was standing outside for maybe a week during 2" inches of rain. The tractor started good, about 15 minutes of running it just died. After checking the gas, that was not it. Checked spark, very weak. I took the distributor off and as I was removing it , the water was just drooling out of the distributor. I am wondering if I wrecked the electronic ignition.

ondering, huh? Well, you can dry everything out & try to start it or you can perform the well documented Pertronix test, or just keep wondering.

Bob · May 28, 2015

Lemee see, you paid a whorehouse price for an EI and there are now issues. IMAGINE that! Why not bother Pertronix tech support with your problem?

Ultradog MN · May 28, 2015

???
You are implying there was something faulty with the Pertronix unit.
How can you reach that conclusion?
Wasn't the problem the lack of a gasket?

Jim in Western MI · May 28, 2015

You asked the question....; electrical stuff doesn't like water, electronic stuff absolutely hates it! You probably wrecked it.

Hobo,NC · May 28, 2015

(quoted from post at 09:16:13 05/28/15) Just installed a Pertronic Ignition 6 volt front distributor with the round can conversion. The tractor was standing outside for maybe a week during 2" inches of rain. The tractor started good, about 15 minutes of running it just died. After checking the gas, that was not it. Checked spark, very weak. I took the distributor off and as I was removing it , the water was just drooling out of the distributor. I am wondering if I wrecked the electronic ignition.

If it triggered your issue is more than likely cap/rotor/wires are coil... Dry the ignition system out get ride of the moisture issue...

tractorguy2 · May 28, 2015

I think you just need to dry it out and put in a gasket set. Might want to think about a new wire set.

Ken(Ark) · May 28, 2015

(quoted from post at 22:16:13 05/27/15) Just installed a Pertronic Ignition 6 volt front distributor with the round can conversion. The tractor was standing outside for maybe a week during 2" inches of rain. The tractor started good, about 15 minutes of running it just died. After checking the gas, that was not it. Checked spark, very weak. I took the distributor off and as I was removing it , the water was just drooling out of the distributor. I am wondering if I wrecked the electronic ignition.

I would dry it out and test the system . It sounds like the ei system did not fail but the moisture robbed the voltage from the spark before it reached the plugs .

I would not contact the seller , either the unit works or it was water damaged . It is just a simple switch that will pass or fail using a test light .

If you have trouble testing it report back . We can choose to reply or ignore the post if it is waisting our net surfing time . I bet the host of this free site hopes you get the answer you need and return the favor by buying their parts .

oldtanker · May 28, 2015

(quoted from post at 22:45:23 05/27/15) Lemee see, you paid a whorehouse price for an EI and there are now issues. IMAGINE that! Why not bother Pertronix tech support with your problem?

Guess I'd rather spend my money on EI than in a whorehouse. Kinda interesting though. I didn't know what whorehouse pricing was. I just don't frequent places like that.

When you install EI in something like a front mount N life becomes much better. Like you don't have to be messing with an almost impossible to get at, very poor location for a regular maintenance item.

Rick

KCTractors · May 28, 2015

Right now, I feel like I am VERY SORRY posting the question. I just thought that maybe someone else had the problem. Thanks to some of the replies for the help. I'll follow up on the problem and then there will no more posts. Yes, I had the gaskets in place!

souNdguy · May 28, 2015

if all gaskets were in place, I'd check cap fit, and then i'd look at the distribuitor body, drilled hole? was it sealed?

In any case. if it has weak fire, it is triggering... it either triggers or doesn't..

dry it out.. then retry. remember voltage is lazy, if it has a place to short, it will.. moisture gives it a chance to short..

oldtanker · May 28, 2015

KC you gotta forgive Bob. He's one of those correct guys who can't stand the thought that someone may modify one of these tractors and just maybe make it better. After all, "Henry designed it that way" and we all know that Henry designed everything they made himself till he died and he never had any design that could be improved on........ :shock: :shock: :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :twisted: :twisted:

And me? I'm just that guy who couldn't help but reply. I have a 12 volt EI on one N and I think I'm going to do the other one this year. May even opt for EI on the Farmall M.

Rick

KCTractors · May 28, 2015

I use this 8N for an experimental tractor. I use this to test other peoples stuff, carburetors, distributors and even hydraulic systems. I am using 6 volt, front distributor with a round can conversion right now and probably try the square can coil also.

Bob · May 29, 2015

KC, Gosh I'm SORRY! Sometimes my inappropriate sense of humor doesn't carry very well over the 'net!

And there's NO room for a sense of humor on this site. It is SEVERELY frowned upon!

If you personally knew me you would only think I am HALF the OGRE 'tank and 'dog think I am!

Getting back to the problem at hand, there's two ways to deal with water getting into electrical or other enclosures.

Keep it out (darned near impossible), or have a drain hole at the lowest point to let it move on it's way.

In another life, I sold and installed LOTS of big satellite dishes, and there was always a problem with water sneaking into the motor/switch area of the "power arms" (linear actuators) and corroding things or freezing in the winter months and wreaking havoc.

All sorts of goop and even rubber boots over the motor area didn't solve the problem, but a simple 1/8" drain hole at the lowest point did.

Back in the day, I could name a couple of guys at Winegard, who figured that out, as they were good about communicating with us "in the field".

Gosh, can't remember for sure, but don't some of those front-mount distributor caps have drain holes at the bottom?

oldtanker · May 29, 2015

(quoted from post at 22:59:23 05/28/15) KC, Gosh I'm SORRY! Sometimes my inappropriate sense of humor doesn't carry very well over the 'net!

And there's NO room for a sense of humor on this site. It is SEVERELY frowned upon!

If you personally knew me you would only think I am HALF the OGRE 'tank and 'dog think I am!

Getting back to the problem at hand, there's two ways to deal with water getting into electrical or other enclosures.

Keep it out (darned near impossible), or have a drain hole at the lowest point to let it move on it's way.

In another life, I sold and installed LOTS of big satellite dishes, and there was always a problem with water sneaking into the motor/switch area of the "power arms" (linear actuators) and corroding things or freezing in the winter months and wreaking havoc.

All sorts of goop and even rubber boots over the motor area didn't solve the problem, but a simple 1/8" drain hole at the lowest point did.

Back in the day, I could name a couple of guys at Winegard, who figured that out, as they were good about communicating with us "in the field".

Gosh, can't remember for sure, but don't some of those front-mount distributor caps have drain holes at the bottom?

OH come on Bob, ya gotta admit my reply was great, even if somewhat inappropriate! Why can't you let a guy spend his money any way he wants?

And I don't think yer an ogre. It's way worse than that (joking)!

My front mounts don't have holes? The distributer base has a vent in it but no drain there either IIRC.

Rick

NoNewParts · May 29, 2015

dry out everything ignition related, and test the ignition trigger....(points/EI/whatever)
start it back up and go back to work.

well at least it didn't water short to the wrong cap terminal and give you a couple wake up bangs before it quit LOL

snow country here, whacking a big drift on a very cold day.
huge cloud of snow. sputter, sputter, quit. dang it.
and if that don't get you, the condensation in the unheated shed will. just dry it out.

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