Water in rear axle

Hafied

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I drained the rear axle oil, while I am doing that I noticed that the first quart was water. How the water got in there? Does anyone know?
Thank you
 
What tractor??? If it is an N series then you best drain the transmission and hyds since the 3 use the same oil so you will have water in them also. 3 drains one fill
 
841 has 3 sumps and 3 fills and unless the seals are bad between each of them the oil does not mix. As for the water you found likely to be from condensation. So now maybe you see why it is a good idea to tell us what you have so we can answer better
 
I'm not "Old", But I'd say yea, a quart of water is a serious issue. Thats a lot of water! Not sure condensation can create that much unless the fluid hasn't been change for a long long time. I'm not sure how it can get in that area on a 841. Maybe one or both sides of the axle were submereged at some point?
 
I believe it has been discussed here before that where the big draft spring goes into the top cover water could enter there pretty easily. The right combination of the tractor parked down hill, wind and heavy rain would allow it to go in there.
Plus condensation. It is a big cavity after all.
I don't think a quart in 5 gallons (or whatever those hold) is a big deal.
Before I dumped out recent oil and replaced it I would crack the drain plug once in a while and let the water run off the bottom. That was specified as normal maintenance procedure for a lot of old tractors.
This reminds me I've been wanting to replace the oil in the tranny and rear end in my own tractor. It's been 9 years I think.
 
Not like to be a big problem as long as you have not run it when cold enough to ice up. Just drain it out and let it sit say 24 hour so that most if not all the water drains out and then fill it back up
 
FuddyDuddy,

Ya, makes you wonder all right, but it's more like neither of them were thinking at all.

They sound like kids not only treating the tractor like a toy but not taking care of their toys either, like our fathers taught us to. Maybe they had no one setting an example for them when they were kids.

If my old man had caught me doing that he would have got out the old leather cribbage board he used to use on us when we really deserved it. :D

Terry
 
(quoted from post at 19:43:29 05/13/15) I believe it has been discussed here before that where the big draft spring goes into the top cover water could enter there pretty easily. The right combination of the tractor parked down hill, wind and heavy rain would allow it to go in there.
Plus condensation. It is a big cavity after all.
I don't think a quart in 5 gallons (or whatever those hold) is a big deal.
Before I dumped out recent oil and replaced it I would crack the drain plug once in a while and let the water run off the bottom. That was specified as normal maintenance procedure for a lot of old tractors.
This reminds me I've been wanting to replace the oil in the tranny and rear end in my own tractor. It's been 9 years I think.

Like UD said, and up here in the North, I'd consider a quart normal maintenance. Condensation, wind driven rain, and worst of all blowing snow.
The tiniest opening in harsh winter will let that blowing snow create a drift...inside.
(like in your garage...small gap...big snow drift inside)
even tarped outside in winter, the wind/snow will find a way.
And after 3 feet of snow has buried the tractor, the 'wicking' effect won't help either.

Drain it out until you get oil, if clean, check the level and go to work.
Most of the old junk I buy, the water could be measured in gallons.........
 

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