Took the saw out for a spin today

Kirk-NJ

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I had to cut up some of the small wood I never got around to cutting before the snow flew. Inbetween the rain drop the
8n and lumber jack saw made short work of the pile. Could have used a chucker, kept have to break down the pile or move
the saw. Son is in Fla. SIL no help so I work alone but got R done.

Kirk
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Here another shot when finished. I would have used my ferguson saw but it was buried in the barn. And for all you safety freaks I've been operating these saws for years and still have all my figures.

Kirk
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I know and I've heard that before. I have plenty of 8n stuff laying around to change it out if I need to. I was going to put a one arm loader on this one until I broke a piece out of the oil pan. The weights are 800 lbs light duty. Why is it no good to use these but ok to use 1000 lb weights for an 8n dearborn grader/maintainer.
Here's a shot of the weights for a dearborn grader.

Kirk
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Yep, didn't want to preach to the choir but can always go to 6 or 8 pie pieces. I know someone who used a 2N for years with the 24 weight set and the tractor did a lot of work. He never had any issues with it, but nowadays I'd side with caution on this issue.


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Man, that saw looks just plain scarey. You've got more guts than I do. :wink:

But then I'm getting to that age when I know I'm not invincible.
 
Well Kirk, I am jealous and envious. I want your saw, your weights, and your backbone. Being a spineless gimp (back surgery) I can only look back on the time I was able to work like that.

Jeff
 
Far from invincible, Those days are long gone. They probably said the same thing when the table saw came out. Hey
depending on how you use it it might just be safer than a chain saw.

Kirk
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I have a Dearborn saw I run on my 47 2N and it is great for cutting the small wood. I think on the small stuff it is safer than a chain saw.

Mark
 
(quoted from post at 16:42:57 04/07/15) Far from invincible, Those days are long gone. They probably said the same thing when the table saw came out. Hey
depending on how you use it it might just be safer than a chain saw.

Kirk
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Kirk, didn't mean anything personal. I just meant that at my age 68, I give a little more thought before doing anything. I'll usually get some help now where in my younger days I would have jumped right in and attempted something myself.

I was cutting a block of Macassar Ebony one day on my table saw. It was about a six inch block. I was shoving it through using the fence when it caught on the blade. It kicked back and flew across the room and broke a window. I could not bend the middle finger on my left hand fully for about eight months.

And that was just with a little ten inch blade. I went out the next week and purchased a 14" band saw, more suited for my purposes.
 
Funny photo!
Clever thread title too! :)

As far as what is dangerous or not in my life, what i found is that my weak link is not being conscious of where my feet are at all times and having my mind ahead of the movement of my feet.

Take an unguarded spinning shaft for instance; I'd never go anywhere near it but I might fall forwards or backwards onto it.

Same with your safe looking cradle saw . . . safe if you stay attentive and unsafe if you don't stay super conscious of your footwork, positioning and balance.

I fell three times last year with disastrous results.
Broken hip, cracked pelvis and I fell sideways and landed ribcage first on the pointed edge of my carryall box.
Part of the reason is that my toes have been totally numb, like they are asleep, for several years.

Terry
 
(quoted from post at 17:24:29 04/07/15) Funny photo!
Clever thread title too! :)

[b:8bd0709e0c][color=red:8bd0709e0c]As far as what is dangerous or not in my life, what i found is that my weak link is not being conscious of where my feet are at all times and having my mind ahead of the movement of my feet.[/color:8bd0709e0c][/b:8bd0709e0c]

Take an unguarded spinning shaft for instance; I'd never go anywhere near it but I might fall forwards or backwards onto it.

Same with your safe looking cradle saw . . . safe if you stay attentive and unsafe if you don't stay super conscious of your footwork, positioning and balance.

I fell three times last year with disastrous results.
Broken hip, cracked pelvis and I fell sideways and landed ribcage first on the pointed edge of my carryall box.
Part of the reason is that my toes have been totally numb, like they are asleep, for several years.

Terry

Just looking at that big blade on Kirk's saw, made me think "heart attack", you grab your chest and fall forward. It just looks like an accident waiting to happen. Please be aware that I'm talking about myself if I was using that saw.

In no way am I saying that Kirk is not smart enough to be safe. It's just not for me.

Tall T, lets just hope that nothing else happens to you. Sounds like you've had your share.
 
I was just trying to find something wrong Kirk. But it wasn't the saw. :)
It saddens me in a way to have so many safety preachers around now days.
 
Pretty much all tools can be dangerous, including the tractor
itself. Nature of the beast. It's an uncaring machine.

Inattentive or untrained operators in a sue happy world cause
a lot of the problems, hence all the safety decals. CYA.

I'm a fairly young guy, but I still have to pay more attention
than I used to in order to stay safe. I'm Ok with that.

I still have all my fingers and toes too. Let's keep it that way! :)
 

Yep,, also when you put lawyers in charge of our country they will import work (immigrants) that the tax payer will foot the bill for there lawyer fee's......
 
That's a nice little saw. I assume the log tray slides or pivots to feed the log into the blade?

For the faint of heart I dug up this picture of myself with a saw I designed a few years ago. It is used to saw hot aluminum extrusions up to 24" tall on the fly at 100 ft/min. My biggest flying saw so far.

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(quoted from post at 18:46:20 04/07/15) I was just trying to find something wrong Kirk. But it wasn't the saw. :)
It saddens me in a way to have so many safety preachers around now days.

Am I a safety preacher because I said that Kirk's saw looks scarey?

I don't know who you are referring to as "safety preachers" but I don't think anything regarding safety should be taken lightly or ignored.
 
I was using Ear plugs. I had forgotten my ear muffs at the gun range at our deer camp.
 
Even though the weight photo I posted was on a later series they did use them with the dearborn grader on the 8n axle.
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Safety Preachers. I would hate to hear them go at it if they seen a photo of my wood splitter.
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I think some people might believe they are smarter than everyone else. Cause they see an inherent danger in something and assume everyone else can not. So it's their duty to warn everyone.
I think a lot of people lack the confidence to get stuff done safely and assume no one else can.
I think a lot of people wake up in the morning and wonder what they'll worry about today.
I think if you combine all the things above you have your typical, self appointed safety preacher.
I think safety preachers don't realize they can be annoying because of course, [i:654c4848f0]they mean well[/i:654c4848f0].
But often, they're just looked upon as just fearful types and I, like most people, let their monitions go in one ear and out the other.
I know I can't help them with their fears so I focus on doing my own work safely.
And I don't say anything.
Untill someone questions me.
Then I say what I really think about safety preachers.
But I always let [i:654c4848f0]Them[/i:654c4848f0] decide if the shoe fits.
 
Kirk, those road maintainer weights look like they are real fun to mount. What does each segment weigh? How do they mount? I have never seen the mounting system. Is there a base plate like the pie weights use? Thanks, Pat
 
Pat,
I've never had a set of these so I don't know how they mount. The photo is of a tractor a guy I know for south jersey picked up and emailed me to see is I knew what they were. I told him and he sold them for a good buck. They are suppose to be 500 LBS for each side.

Kirk
 
(quoted from post at 04:14:41 04/08/15) I think some people might believe they are smarter than everyone else. Cause they see an inherent danger in something and assume everyone else can not. So it's their duty to warn everyone.
I think a lot of people lack the confidence to get stuff done safely and assume no one else can.
I think a lot of people wake up in the morning and wonder what they'll worry about today.
I think if you combine all the things above you have your typical, self appointed safety preacher.
I think safety preachers don't realize they can be annoying because of course, [i:4af645edad]they mean well[/i:4af645edad].
But often, they're just looked upon as just fearful types and I, like most people, let their monitions go in one ear and out the other.
I know I can't help them with their fears so I focus on doing my own work safely.
And I don't say anything.
Untill someone questions me.
Then I say what I really think about safety preachers.
But I always let [i:4af645edad]Them[/i:4af645edad] decide if the shoe fits.

A lot of people just sit at a keyboard dreaming and never get anything done. Please don't take this as referring to anyone here.
 

Just about picked up one of those saws last year but the seller would not budge from $300 so I passed. Now you gave me the itch again.

As long as you can pick up the wood and place it on the table these things work great.
 
We'll be taking the Dearborn saw to the hunting cabin this summer to saw the logs we pulled off dnr land. They do make quick work. Now if I could find a 30" blade I'd be happy.
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I got one just like it. They were made by Unicorn but also sold by Kubota with a orange coat of paint as the. B-310. Later ones were sold with a kill switch that went on the back fender. It is highly recommended that anyone using one of these rig up a kill switch (or several). If a log gets spinning in can get the tractor shaking and hopping so badly that it is difficult to kill the engine!

Screw cone splitter are very popular in Europe, though usually with safety features the old USA ones didn't have like a table to put the log on instead of a bit of pipe, or even a sliding carriage that holds the log and prevents the operator from contacting the screw.
 
(quoted from post at 02:45:39 04/08/15) Safety Preachers. I would hate to hear them go at it if they seen a photo of my wood splitter.
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Nice Unicorn! I have the same unit. The new safety modification that brought them back on the market is to lose the pipe and install a full lower plate that extends beyond the point, to keep the rounds from spinning and the operator from getting screwed. I read that they were taken off the market after a few accidents, apparenty someone didnt let go and got both arms ripped off
 
My sister paints farm scenes on blades like that. She would love to get her hands on those.
Is that a C750 BIG JOB in the corner. I sold one like that some time back. Guy I sold it to
put about $30,000 bucks into it and made a car transporter out of it. Put a CAT engine it
it.
 
(quoted from post at 08:54:37 04/08/15) My sister paints farm scenes on blades like that. She would love to get her hands on those.
Is that a C750 BIG JOB in the corner. I sold one like that some time back. Guy I sold it to
put about $30,000 bucks into it and made a car transporter out of it. Put a CAT engine it
it.

I have been selling the blades to tourists for $75 each. I would be willing to discuss a discount for a large purchase. You are looking at about 900 Lbs and it stacks to about 2 feet high, located in east central California where in snowed last night. The truck is a 56 C600. I am keeping it and it will remain stock. I have sold 6 Cabovers and am always looking for more, one went to Thailand, and I have a 69 Dodge L600 awaiting transport to Canada, where it was made.
 

Kirk, my splitter attaches to the rear axle of a truck, just pull a wheel and bolt it on. I like yours better. might have to adapt my cork screw...

Jeff
 
Trickier than it might seem, turning a rear axle mount cone splitter into a 3 pt hitch one, since the axle ones tend to be RH thread and a PTO one must be CCW. Or is it the
other way around? Anyhow, you need some sort of gearing/belts/ciains to reverse the direction unless you can find a CCW cone.
 
(quoted from post at 11:44:31 04/08/15)
Kirk, my splitter attaches to the rear axle of a truck, just pull a wheel and bolt it on. I like yours better. might have to adapt my cork screw...

Jeff

One version I have seen on Youtube is that the cone is on a hydraulic motor hanging down from a loader bucket. All the rounds are on the ground and the operator splits them all from his seat. Its slow compared to a processing machine like this one my neighbor owns. We were only doing a dozen trees so did not setup the conveyor that dumps the wood into the truck

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8fwM0KDm018
 
(quoted from post at 11:56:16 04/08/15) Kirk just couldn't resist.
BTW we need to catch up regarding those rear rims.




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Uh Oh, look out Ultradog, we got as a genuine safety preacher here.
 
(quoted from post at 15:13:24 04/09/15)
(quoted from post at 11:56:16 04/08/15) Kirk just couldn't resist.
BTW we need to catch up regarding those rear rims.

Uh Oh, look out Ultradog, we got as a genuine safety preacher here.

Sure...Throw me under the tractor. :roll:
 
(quoted from post at 12:34:34 04/09/15)
(quoted from post at 15:13:24 04/09/15)
(quoted from post at 11:56:16 04/08/15) Kirk just couldn't resist.
BTW we need to catch up regarding those rear rims.

Uh Oh, look out Ultradog, we got as a genuine safety preacher here.

Sure...Throw me under the tractor. :roll:

You'll be ok as long as you put that tin suit on. By the way, is it ANSI rated?
 
Keep looking they're out there at a reasonable price. This saw I was using is a friend of mine. I was passing by a
local guy who does clean outs and scraps stuff and seen it on the back of a truck with other scrap. I didn't need
another one since I already had a ferguson one so I call my buddy and he shot over there and bought it for $60. A
couple of the legs were bent so we took it apart and straighten it out on my press. He did a very good job sharpening
the blade with a little help from a guy on youtube. I actually like this one better than my ferguson because it's pto
driven and you don't have to hook up a pulley. It also has a longer table that also wraps around the blade which
kicks the wood out and away from the blade further unlike some of the earlier ferguson and dearborn models. If I run
across one at a reasonable cost I'll let you know.
These things won't replace my chain saw but come in handy for cutting up the smaller stuff.

Kirk
 
(quoted from post at 10:31:01 04/09/15)
(quoted from post at 11:44:31 04/08/15)
Kirk, my splitter attaches to the rear axle of a truck, just pull a wheel and bolt it on. I like yours better. might have to adapt my cork screw...

Jeff

One version I have seen on Youtube is that the cone is on a hydraulic motor hanging down from a loader bucket. All the rounds are on the ground and the operator splits them all from his seat. Its slow compared to a processing machine like this one my neighbor owns. We were only doing a dozen trees so did not setup the conveyor that dumps the wood into the truck

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8fwM0KDm018




ObsoElitist, Do you have any video of that processor that is from a little further back? I would like to get a look at it.
 
Yes, but I have to warn you it is loud, long, and slow.This was his first use of the machine so much of the first 5 minutes is spent fooling with jammed chunks that the next log would have pushed out, and winching shortys is a lot more clumsy than with long ones as you need to set the choker 5 feet back.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2fEu7kOWatg
It operates by using a guillotine blade to both cut, push through the splitter, and move the log once it has been winched to the machine, and also squeezes out a lot of the water. Once the initial settings have been made, it will run by itself untill the log runs out
In this one we were processing a bunch of short ones from trees that were near buildings and power and had to come down in peices from the top. The machine can handle up to 16 inch diameter. Many of my trees are over 3 feet in diameter and over 150 feet tall, like the one seen across the highway We did not setup the truck loading conveyor as we were only doing 6 trees. A guy downhill has a much lager one for sale but he want too much money for it

I see old cross cut saw all over here in the Sierras. most are not tractor driven but made from old cars.

I have a few more video on Youtube, searchable under the name "Arborigine",
 
(quoted from post at 10:05:30 04/10/15) Yes, but I have to warn you it is loud, long, and slow.This was his first use of the machine so much of the first 5 minutes is spent fooling with jammed chunks that the next log would have pushed out, and winching shortys is a lot more clumsy than with long ones as you need to set the choker 5 feet back.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2fEu7kOWatg
It operates by using a guillotine blade to both cut, push through the splitter, and move the log once it has been winched to the machine, and also squeezes out a lot of the water. Once the initial settings have been made, it will run by itself untill the log runs out
In this one we were processing a bunch of short ones from trees that were near buildings and power and had to come down in peices from the top. The machine can handle up to 16 inch diameter. Many of my trees are over 3 feet in diameter and over 150 feet tall, like the one seen across the highway We did not setup the truck loading conveyor as we were only doing 6 trees. A guy downhill has a much lager one for sale but he want too much money for it

I see old cross cut saw all over here in the Sierras. most are not tractor driven but made from old cars.

I have a few more video on Youtube, searchable under the name "Arborigine",

Thanks, Very interesting. Did the guy design and build it himself? if so it must have been a long refining process.
 
Don't the safety experts say most accidents happen within 25 miles from home? I guess I'm moving my woodpile....
 

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