Blue Streak Points....Much to be desired!!!

Installing a new set of Blue Streak Points on a front mount.
Makes me wonder if I should'a went with the china made ones.

Had to bend the stationary point back and than twist it forward to get to line up vertically with the point on the rubbing block.
Then had to put a copper washer under the rubbing block to raise it to the height of the stationary point.
Lastly had to file the top of the rubbing block down to get the cotter pin to fit.

Best points I have used yet are ACDELCO F121

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Which BlueStreak points did you buy?
I buy the premium ones from my local parts store.
Part number FD-6769X. No "X" on the end, not the right ones.
I don't order anything online that says they're BlueStreak.
No way to tell what they are until they get here.
Sorry to hear you had trouble with them, they work great for me.
 

Yep has the "X". Have used standard for many years for other than tractors. Maybe a bad batch.
Standard Motor Products is about 15 minutes from me. I was going to take the distributor down to them to show them but could not be bothered.


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Hopefully it was just a bad batch, or better yet a bad set.
That's the same familiar box and part number I use.
Even the same Made in Mexico label.
 
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Gw;
Most of Standard elect. parts, are now being outsorced from,....Taiwan...Mexico, .....and China.
I have a box with a new rotor cap....Made in Taiwan..
I have a new set of Blue Streak prem. points made in Mexico..
I have a new condenser...Made in China..

All brand new, in Standard Motors boxes.

Parts is parts....and until we get factories back in the USA, and force them to move quality parts, from those factories...we are at the mercy of bad workmanship!!!! JMHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We buy parts, hoping they will be made to spec., then we have to hold inspection on those parts fixing them to where they WILL work!!!!
What are we to do.....we need good quality workmanship, and ain't getting it!!!!!!
Yer last pic. of the Standard part, should be enough to tell ya sompin'!!!......'Made in Mexico'!!

Gary :twisted: [/i:b385f41491][/b:b385f41491]
 
(quoted from post at 00:13:50 03/31/15) [b:fa29c99602][i:fa29c99602]

Gw;
Most of Standard elect. parts, are now being outsorced from,....Taiwan...Mexico, .....and China.
I have a box with a new rotor cap....Made in Taiwan..
I have a new set of Blue Streak prem. points made in Mexico..
I have a new condenser...Made in China..

All brand new, in Standard Motors boxes.

Parts is parts....and until we get factories back in the USA, and force them to move quality parts, from those factories...we are at the mercy of bad workmanship!!!! JMHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We buy parts, hoping they will be made to spec., then we have to hold inspection on those parts fixing them to where they WILL work!!!!
What are we to do.....we need good quality workmanship, and ain't getting it!!!!!!
Yer last pic. of the Standard part, should be enough to tell ya sompin'!!!......'Made in Mexico'!!

Gary :twisted: [/i:fa29c99602][/b:fa29c99602]
In many cases, the folks in other countries are perfectly capable
of making a quality part if the company hiring them to do so
required them to meet manufacturing specs. Of course, the
foreign manufacturers would charge more for that kind of detail.
American companies would pass that cost on to the consumer,
American consumers would complain about the cost and stock
holders would lose money. Corporate profits would decline.
If we were willing to pay the extra money (and not try to get
rich off of lawsuits) we'd still have full service filling stations.
We live in a greedy world.
 
(quoted from post at 23:30:25 03/30/15)
(quoted from post at 00:13:50 03/31/15) [b:7f9c55247e][i:7f9c55247e]

Gw;
Most of Standard elect. parts, are now being outsorced from,....Taiwan...Mexico, .....and China.
I have a box with a new rotor cap....Made in Taiwan..
I have a new set of Blue Streak prem. points made in Mexico..
I have a new condenser...Made in China..

All brand new, in Standard Motors boxes.

Parts is parts....and until we get factories back in the USA, and force them to move quality parts, from those factories...we are at the mercy of bad workmanship!!!! JMHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We buy parts, hoping they will be made to spec., then we have to hold inspection on those parts fixing them to where they WILL work!!!!
What are we to do.....we need good quality workmanship, and ain't getting it!!!!!!
Yer last pic. of the Standard part, should be enough to tell ya sompin'!!!......'Made in Mexico'!!

Gary :twisted: [/i:7f9c55247e][/b:7f9c55247e]
In many cases, the folks in other countries are perfectly capable
of making a quality part if the company hiring them to do so
required them to meet manufacturing specs. Of course, the
foreign manufacturers would charge more for that kind of detail.
American companies would pass that cost on to the consumer,
American consumers would complain about the cost and stock
holders would lose money. Corporate profits would decline.
If we were willing to pay the extra money (and not try to get
rich off of lawsuits) we'd still have full service filling stations.
We live in a greedy world.

LR;
I agree wholeheartedly!!!
And would only add.......Bad stuff runs downhill!!!

GB :(
 
Them aint the B-S your daddy put in his Buick. Sad. The name used to mean something. I got some
NOS off the net, their pure gold to me.
 

It's a very unfortunate fact that corporate America is what created and continues to feed this out of control engine of corporate greed to squeeze every last cent into rasing the profit margin.

There is no more dedication to making " a good product" and having your name proudly represent what your company manufactures. We live in a nation of "disposable".

We as the consumer are also to blame for feeding this out-of-control engine. We feed the same corporate ideology by continuously looking for the cheaper price and willing to except the fact that we get an inferior product.

The consumer is the only driving force that can slowly change the direction in which that engine turns by buying American made products.

The greater problem is that now we want to buy made in America but what we are looking for isn't produced in America anymore so we are forced to buy imported garbage.
 
I put EI in my front mount 1949 8N mainly because of the difficulty in finding good front mount points. I am
now worried that good caps, rotors and condensers will start becoming hard to find. I have a small stock of
NAPA front mount ignition parts but it may be time to buy more. There can't be a big market for front mount
point kits that only fit 1939-1950 ford tractors and I suspect sales decrease each year. When sales decrease
suppliers and quality decrease as well. These old Fords are so tough and versatile that many of us still use
them as daily workers. My main use 8N was owned by my father and I used it as a kid. I use mine to push snow,
plow, mow grass and as a front end loader. If I can't depend on my 8N to run good when needed, due to poor
ignition parts, I will be forced to buy some something newer. That would be sad. I had hoped my grandson
would use it to mow with but that may not be possible.
 
I agree that they gave you the wrong set -no 'X' suffix on part number. I always use the ECHLIN brand that NAPA sells, part number C535, and cam lube grease, p/n ML1. Remember to swipe the closed point contacts with a piece of paper bag to clean off any contaminants and moisture when your are done and prior to re-assembling to engine.

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(quoted from post at 03:58:08 03/31/15) Them aint the B-S your daddy put in his Buick. Sad. The name used to mean something. I got some
NOS off the net, their pure gold to me.

It's called advances in technology. Manufacturing mechanical contact breaker points is a nearly dead and shrinking low/no profit niche business. Sort of like the buggy whip business. No one is going to put any time or money into making a better buggy whip.

Standard continues to make many millions of high quality engine management parts for a modern, growing, and much more profitable digital controls market.

TOH
 
I have heard there is a problem with front mount points not fitting. Doesn't
matter what brand they are either. A&I tractor parts nolonger carries front
mount points.
 
Installed similar set of blue streak points about a month back and they fit and aligned perfectly. Same for a set of ACDelco points.
This set of Blue streaks was just worthless.

Tim they are the "X" type not cause the box said so but cause they match up to and look exactly the same as the others I have used. They have the brass hardware and non plastic rubbing block.


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i go online and buy original blue streak points those are the copper colored and blue ones,and are in the red standard ignition brand boxes, these are off shore repro points, had nothing but bad luck with them myself, i keep one set for the jubilee on the shelf, when i use them i begin the search for another set
 

The set of TSC sourced points I put on my 9N had bent so much after about a year and half on the tractor that the points barely touched anymore. No wonder it didn't want to start and would barely run when it did. Got replacement points from YT... much better set.
 
(quoted from post at 09:44:14 03/31/15) i go online and buy original blue streak points those are the copper colored and blue ones,and are in the red standard ignition brand boxes, these are off shore repro points, had nothing but bad luck with them myself, i keep one set for the jubilee on the shelf, when i use them i begin the search for another set

Eric you lost me. I thought the "X" marked ones are the "better" Blue Streak Points. What P/N you use for the copper colored ones?
 
Sumptin is wrong with this picture---- are you sure these points are correct? are they bent and
shimmed in the picture? Just askin.
 
(quoted from post at 13:22:03 03/31/15)
Terry I believe that those are side mount points....!

Thanks!
Me and my big mouth.
I should know better by now, that the front mount is a totally different animal. I'll delete that post as it is taking up space. :)
 
No don't delete it. Brings up a similar good point. Do the side mounts have multiple grades of points also?

Too Late.....
 
"Do the side mounts have multiple grades of points also?"

Yes. Again with that "X" on the end for BlueStreak.
NAPA also sells different grades in the Echlin line.
Some are vented others are not, etc.
 
Greywolf,

Re: the NAA
I took the points I had pictured in to the auto parts today and asked him why I had asked for FD-8081X and gotten 8081 without the X.

He looked it up and showed where they used to be called FD-8081XV in his books and said that the number has been superceded by FD-8081 -- with the XV being no longer available.

I'll do a search for FD-8081XV right now.
Maybe someone has bought up the old stock.

NAA points revisited

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Searched and got to a site where I typed in FD-8081XV to the site parts search and got this:
STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # FD8081 More Info {#1010843, 12332783, 1818718, 19106509, 231593, 292603C91, 3052362, 322130C92, 392603C91, 3L3U12A366BB, 3L3Z12029BA, 500568, 7RA12171, 7RA12171A, 89057154, A7A12000B, C3DZ12171A, C3DZ12172A, C8AF12171B, C9AF12171B, C9AZ12171B, D3DF12171A, D3DF12171AA, D3DF12171BA, D4DZ12171A, D8NN12171AA, DP305, DP70, F1002, F1003, F101PV, F101PVZ, FAA12171A, FD508, [b:792dc096a2]FD8081XV[/b:792dc096a2]} Rubbing Block Material: Metal &amp; Brass; Direct OE Replacement; Points Vented: No
Category: Ignition Breaker Points
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That's where I got my data.
I'm pretty sure I first chose '53 for the search.

Hey, you were supposed to find me a XV set! :D

That rubbing block looks like tough vinyl in that last little photo I posted. I don't think the black one above it, that i have, would be as long lasting
 
I know,
Remember I mentioned what the guys showed me today in their auto parts catalogues. . . . it was their Standard Catalogue we looked at.

But sometimes entrepreneurs buy up old stock that they know production has stopped on. So . . . that's why I went looking for brand X.
 

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