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Lisa K · Mar 28, 2015

Its broken now. Was just starting to see the splines at the back of the pump. Guess I get to pull a pump off a parts tractor. The shaft is still stuck.

souNdguy · Mar 28, 2015

Just curious, what prompted the shaft pull, some other issue? Related?

Lisa K · Mar 28, 2015

Needed a new PTO seal and I wanted to drop the pump and clean the sludge out. The oil was blacker than black. This tractor was used to strictly run a grain elevator. The whole inside is black. When I pulled the plug to drain there was an inch of sludge on the plug. I'm wondering if the oil has never been changed. Its getting a new naa piston and oring. The lift was never used. They took the arms off. Cam pin is brand new. Light rust in the cylinder. We are selling this one so I wanted to make sure everything was sound on it.

souNdguy · Mar 28, 2015

It did look a bit rusty.

Bore and old piston may be new...

Lisa K · Mar 28, 2015

So now what. Split the rear end and tranny? The shaft has to be stuck in the coupler or whatever its name is forward of the pump. Just from looking at some tractors we have partially apart.

OH Boy · Mar 28, 2015

That shaft may be twisted and have to be cut off with a sawzall to get it and the pump out.

souNdguy · Mar 28, 2015

The shaft usually hangs in the pump, as evidenced by your bottom breakout.

If the pump is a gonner, and no other reason to split exists,I'd just rip its guts out. The shaft and pump are lost causes.

Shaft due to twist, and pump base broke out.

Might salvage bearing carrier from shaft, and side covers, etc, others non involved parts..

Hobo,NC · Mar 28, 2015

N's collect dirt its the nature of the beast... When you get your belly full of N's and move up to the 100 series you will not find sumps full of dirt nor lift piston bores scratched all to ell from the dirt...

I would drive the shaft back in and split... You know the drill its not that bad a job...

Lisa K · Mar 28, 2015

Here's what I've found. I pulled all the bolts from the pump and pulled on the shaft pulling the pump back. Its stuck in the pump not forward of it. Now I'm going to cut the PTO shaft off inside. It sucks but I'll take it as a learning experience.

Lisa K · Mar 28, 2015

Working my way up to the 100 series. Have 1 for now. That's probably enough.

Ultradog MN · Mar 28, 2015

That's too bad.
But, you've got spares.
I wouldn't even bother cutting the shaft or pulling the pump out.
Split it, save the trumpets and axles, differential, pinion gear and top cover.
Scrap the rest.

Hobo,NC · Mar 28, 2015

I have never had to cut a PTO shaft I have had one that was twisted on the PTO support end and the PTO shiftier would not move but it came out...

Good luck

Lisa K · Mar 28, 2015

Can't scrap it. Its pretty much already sold.

Lisa K · Mar 28, 2015

This is a bit ridiculous. Got the shaft cut and now trying to get what's left of the pump to drop out. But the front of the PTO shaft is in the way. So partially disassembling the pump in the tractor. It will be Interesting to see why its stuck in the pump. Suppose the po did something to it.

Lisa K · Mar 28, 2015

Its out!!!! You can see its stuck in the pump. See the shavings from trying to pull it out.

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