A little fun with the oil drain plug

Royse

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I think if you're going to braze a nut on, you should use a
wrench on the nut after that. No? It looks like this one has
had about every known method of getting them out utilized,
including a chisel. I'm thinking I'll go the $14 replacement
route and get a new screen with it to boot. :roll:

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I thought that was the reason they make different size channel locks and vice grips? It's only time for a new part when you're out of tools that'll grip it ;)
 

On my buddies tractor, somebody in the past drilled a hole in the middle of the plug, tapped it and screwed a ball valve on there. I was thinking how awesome that would be to change your oil, but not so much when you shear it off on a rock.
 

Drill a hole on either side of the nut (but not too deep) for a pin spanner and add some notches around the edges for a hook spanner. Two more wrench options when you can't find the others.
 

If only history can talk. Wonder what the reason for brazing a nut on was when you got a perfectly good place for a box end wrench to begin with.
 
Back around 1972 I worked a couple years at a saw mill in central Massachusetts (COLD in the winter). I have fond memories of one of the guys repairing a flat tire on a fork lift. He HAMMERED DOWN THE STUDS so the tire wouldn't fall off. WW-II vet Russell went BALLISTIC - "Why in F* did you do THAT ???"
 

The square corners of the drive get rounded because people didn't keep the open end wrench square to the task.

So I just had an idea for a simple long term fix.. . .
braze a big flat washer to the top of the square plug drive, raised if need be, so that an open end wrench like I used on mine could never slip off even if using an awkward pipe extension.

TT
 
looks like something on the 8n i just bought . i finally found a nut that wasnt rounded off , on the oil relief valve . most likely because he didnt know it existed .
 
I would weld a 3/4 inch square nut on close to the edge. Then you could use a bar between the nut & center and a long rod with threads to get more torque on it.
 
Never could understand why folks think they gotta heave hoe when replacing that plug after an oil change.

A new gasket and a snug fit is more than enough.
Rouse got it right. Replace it and install it the correct way.
 
(quoted from post at 17:03:54 03/16/15) I think if you're going to braze a nut on, you should use a
wrench on the nut after that. No? It looks like this one has
had about every known method of getting them out utilized,
including a chisel. I'm thinking I'll go the $14 replacement
route and get a new screen with it to boot. :roll:

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UMMMMmmm.....perhaps, a P.O. didn't own a 300MM 'C'..wrench????
I have one or two, and I know Royse has at least one....if not more!!! :lol:

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I have no use for 'hackmasters'. Farmerized is one thing but anyone who butchers up something like that obviously should not be allowed to turn a wrench. I learned early in life from my late father that you don't abuse tools or parts. I would often tick off guys because if they asked to borrow a tool from me, I'd always ask what did they needed it for. My point was if they intended to borrow a screwdriver then use it as a chisel, no, they could not borrow it. If they want to borrow a crescent wrench then use it as a hammer, then no, not going to loan you my tools. There's no reason that oil plug had to be boogered up that bad. It was either tightened on way to tight, my guess is there was a slight oil leak due to not replacing the gasket, or no gasket at all, and thus the owner put a 4-foot fence post cheater/breaker bar on his wrench and reefed down, hence over tightening.

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(quoted from post at 05:41:58 03/17/15)
(quoted from post at 19:20:24 03/16/15) The other way to do it is a BASIN WRENCH
Basin Wrench

I have a basin wrench. There is not a basin wrench made that would stand up to one of those plugs.

I have one also. I use it for what it was intended for. No way would I try to use it on a drain plug.

The words under the picture said "the harder you pull the tighter it grips". A new, not worn out pipe, wrench would do the same thing. I've never had a problem with the drain plug since I use the proper size wrench. That's all it takes.
 
"I think its catching on. :) "

I hope not. Way easier to just replace it AND get the screen.
 
(quoted from post at 16:41:43 03/17/15) "I think its catching on. :) "

I hope not. Way easier to just replace it AND get the screen.

I have a new one sitting in my parts box. It's a cheap part and like you said it's got the screen in case mine gets damaged. It also came with the gasket on it.
 
(quoted from post at 16:34:57 03/17/15) My drain plug is pretty rounded, my basin wrench works wonderfully on it.

Sorry but in that situation, I'd still grab a pipe wrench. But hey, if it works for you then have at it. :wink:

Using a basin wrench on an old Ford tractor just sounds kind of, well, you know...
 
(quoted from post at 16:34:57 03/17/15) My drain plug is pretty rounded, my basin wrench works wonderfully on it.

Now Charlie, Come on give us a break. Anybody that knows what a basin wrench is knows that the handle that you twist to remove the fitting under the sink, is only five inches long. Any body that has ever removed one of these plugs knows that just because of their diameter and the size of the gasket, that it is going to take a wrench way longer than five inches. So how about admitting that you are fibbing, or that you don't have an old Ford, or that you have never changed the oil in it yourself.
 
my thoughts exactly tim , people know better than to even ask to borrow something from me cause ive had to many things returned damaged and no offer to replace it . i used to tell people yes you can borrow it , but leave me a signed check so i can replace it if its screwed up and they looked at me like im the a#@hole .
 
My highschool auto shop instructor kept the crecent wrenches locked up. You had to have a good reason to use one. As a vw owner i often did, metric wasnt well represented there in 1973
 
dumb design really
wrench flats size in relation to the thread diameter.......
bigger would be better, a deep slot would have worked fine.
(like a Farmall belly pump drive)

Sometimes they are really tight.
working tractor, no water in the oil, routine change after I got it.
good tools, tight wrench fit, strong arm....
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(quoted from post at 20:47:41 03/18/15) My highschool auto shop instructor kept the crecent wrenches locked up. You had to have a good reason to use one. As a vw owner i often did, metric wasnt well represented there in 1973

I also remember my shop teacher saying that there was a right way and a wrong way to use a Crescent wrench. You always want to pull with the pressure against the stable jaw not against the adjustable one.
 

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