Friday night carb party (pic)

Royse · Jan 30, 2015

A couple of TSX-241's I put back together after work tonight.
Far from the way I used to spend my Friday nights, but way more productive.
At least I'll get some seat time testing them this weekend!

HCooke · Jan 30, 2015

Royce, What kind (brand) of paint do you use?

Royse · Jan 30, 2015

Rustoleum Professional High Performance.
It's a little spendy, but it holds up to gas better than most.
Unfortunately gas will still take off fresh paint if not careful.
This is it [b:0e3de33fab]here.[/b:0e3de33fab]
One of the fastest drying paints I've ever used too.

JCinKY · Jan 30, 2015

Royse, work looks flawless as usual!

I've got one in carb cleaner now, pulled it from dad's bush hogging 8N tonight.

The floats are in sad shape and it's flooding out real bad. Hopefully I can scrounge up a set a floats from my parts stash...location TBD.

I've got a loaded zenith on the shelf but we'll give his 241B a go first.

I'll try to post a pic tomorrow. I may even clean the bench, lay out all the parts on a new white shop rag, and sort tools accordingly. :lol:

BTW...that rustoleum profession is baaaad stuff. I love how fast it dries and holds up.

Den N Ms · Jan 30, 2015

(quoted from post at 17:57:44 01/30/15) Rustoleum Professional High Performance.
It's a little spendy, but it holds up to gas better than most.
Unfortunately gas will still take off fresh paint if not careful.
This is it [b:12f63d7687]here.[/b:12f63d7687]
One of the fastest drying paints I've ever used too.

Royce,Have you ever tried black lacquer ,it drys really fast and is not affected by gasoline to soften or remove it after its dry.

Royse · Jan 30, 2015

(quoted from post at 21:08:02 01/30/15)

(quoted from post at 17:57:44 01/30/15) Rustoleum Professional High Performance.
It's a little spendy, but it holds up to gas better than most.
Unfortunately gas will still take off fresh paint if not careful.
This is it [b:4539d5538a]here.[/b:4539d5538a]
One of the fastest drying paints I've ever used too.

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Royce,Have you ever tried black lacquer ,it drys really fast and is not affected by gasoline to soften or remove it after its dry.

I used to paint cars with Lacquer Den. Loved it!
It provides the best finish I've ever seen on a car.
Very forgiving to the painter, but not to flaws in the body work.
Other then the wet sanding in between coats, it was easy to use.
Hard to find it around here now, even in a spray can.
The spray cans I find labeled Lacquer aren't the same.
I'd sure be willing to try it if someone knows where I can get it!

Hobo,NC · Jan 30, 2015

Cast blast may be worth a try tho not cheap either...

Personal I won't paint a carb on the outside I did once that's it... If I wanted paint it would be on the inside were it counts and it would be POR-15...

Know a guy that does on MS's big as yer head... He keeps his por-15 in mason jars uses a small brush when done, cap the jar and turn it upside down says it keeps a very long time that way...

Acrylic enamel paint I get in rattle cans from CNH stands up to gas and drys fast its not cheap either... If a man wanted to go high tech he could use a air brush with automotive paint,,, Not cheap either but the best... It would be interesting to try a flat paint for resistance to gas...

May the big tipper gods be good to ya...

Den N Ms · Jan 30, 2015

O'Rileys auto parts carry it for one I think NAPA has it too.
Back when I was rebuilding BIG truck Starters and alternators at work nation wide,for one of the nations largest truck lines.I set up an airless sprayer to spray starters black and alternators gray using lacquer paint.It dryed fast so they could be (handled quickly and for durability)so they could be boxed and readied to ship out to all the shops.
[/list]]Laquer spray paint[/url]

WW2N · Jan 30, 2015

Very nice. About 4 yrs ago I bought what was sold
as NOS M/S 241 it was red. I do like blk and 9
and 2s gray or blk. So were the orgs blk or red?
Or are you following the old Henry Ford saying
"Ya can have any color ya like as long as its
Black" ("?

Hobo,NC · Jan 30, 2015

Dunno what cast blast is but you can handle the part it in 5 min...
I always thought it was Lacquer...

jon · Jan 30, 2015

So were the orgs blk or red?

Just about everything was red, including, oddly enough, the exhaust manifold!

Royse · Jan 30, 2015

"Ya can have any color ya like as long as its Black"

Nah, I've painted some red for guys that wanted them red.
The problem isn't the color, it's matching the color of the tractor.
Too many different brands/shades to say for sure it will match.
Then of course there are the fade rates that vary.
Most times it's easier to have a nicely contrasting black carb.

GB in MT. · Jan 30, 2015

(quoted from post at 22:39:00 01/30/15) "Ya can have any color ya like as long as its Black"

Nah, I've painted some red for guys that wanted them red.
The problem isn't the color, it's matching the color of the tractor.
Too many different brands/shades to say for sure it will match.
Then of course there are the fade rates that vary.
Most times it's easier to have a nicely contrasting black carb.

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That is why I used Napa 'Wrought Iron' flat black Repels fuel & oil stains, But also made it act like a primer, if the owner wanted to paint it 'his' color.
I did a survey on here, and found that Most wanted the flat black, and reports over a 7 yr. time, the flat black, Wrought iron paint, held up very well.....or so they told me.!!!

Your carbs look great...to each his own, as they say!!! :wink:

Just a thought, for you!!

Gary 8) [/i:71501eb34c][/b:71501eb34c]

WW2N · Jan 31, 2015

I always paint my starter,genny and carb black
when I refurbish 8Ns, Black done a couple of 2s
that way, ya on the contrast it makes for real
nice eye candy. Note in photo how the lack of
contrast really takes away from what seller
thought would help make a quick sale. Not my ad.

WW2N · Jan 31, 2015

Black as a contrast here would have helped on this, not my ad.

Royse · Jan 31, 2015

Cast Blast may be a good alternative for folks who want a
natural metal look. I'll try it out and see how it looks.
A five minute handling time sure sounds like Lacquer.

Royse · Jan 31, 2015

Thanks Gary, I have painted some flat black too. Not with Napa
wrought iron paint though. The paint I used looked good, but
didn't repel gas as well as the gloss. At least not when new.
Always willing to try new things, so I'll give it a shot.

rustyfarmall · Jan 31, 2015

When I rebuild the Farmall carbs, I like to paint the top and bottom seperately, before I assemble the carb. I then place each piece under a heat lamp for about 2 hours. It does take a little extra time because of applying the masking tape and such, but the end result is a much more durable finish that will stand up to a LITTLE bit of gasoline.

Royse · Jan 31, 2015

(quoted from post at 10:31:03 01/31/15)
When I rebuild the Farmall carbs, I like to paint the top and bottom seperately, before I assemble the carb. I then place each piece under a heat lamp for about 2 hours. It does take a little extra time because of applying the masking tape and such, but the end result is a much more durable finish that will stand up to a LITTLE bit of gasoline.

That's the way I do mine too RustyFarmall. Separate pieces.
In the winter months I set them on top of my auxiliary heater
to warm the metal first, then put them back there to harden.

GB in MT. · Jan 31, 2015

(quoted from post at 07:25:15 01/31/15) Thanks Gary, I have painted some flat black too. Not with Napa
wrought iron paint though. The paint I used looked good, but
didn't repel gas as well as the gloss. At least not when new.
Always willing to try new things, so I'll give it a shot.

LR;
As usual....I screwed up my first statement...........Should have been...
'ACE brand Wrought Iron' NOT NAPA!!!

Gary

kylemorley · Jan 31, 2015

Are you sure that CNH paint is acrylic? Does it actually say so on
the can?

I'm not a big fan of alkyd, and been hearing rumors of a CNH rattle
can acrylic, but never found any. I contacted CNH a few years ago
and they said all their rattle can paint was alkyd. Do they have
another better grade perhaps?

Hobo,NC · Jan 31, 2015

It may be alkyd... Its good stuff what ever it is...

Flyguy30263 · Oct 17, 2015

Royce where do you get the 4 screws that hold the carb half together. They don't come in any rebuild kit I've seen. Your rebuilds are a work of art.

Thanks
Jack

showcrop · Oct 17, 2015

(quoted from post at 21:39:00 01/30/15) "Ya can have any color ya like as long as its Black"

Nah, I've painted some red for guys that wanted them red.
The problem isn't the color, it's matching the color of the tractor.
Too many different brands/shades to say for sure it will match.
Then of course there are the fade rates that vary.
Most times it's easier to have a nicely contrasting black carb.

And that is exactly why most older tractors have black starters and generators. They pretty much ALL go to the repair shop at some point and come back black, so many people think that they were done black at the factory. If they had been painted separately, off the tractor, at the factory, they would not have started.

Royse · Oct 17, 2015

(quoted from post at 21:42:49 10/17/15)

(quoted from post at 21:39:00 01/30/15) "Ya can have any color ya like as long as its Black"

Nah, I've painted some red for guys that wanted them red.
The problem isn't the color, it's matching the color of the tractor.
Too many different brands/shades to say for sure it will match.
Then of course there are the fade rates that vary.
Most times it's easier to have a nicely contrasting black carb.

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And that is exactly why most older tractors have black starters and generators. They pretty much ALL go to the repair shop at some point and come back black, so many people think that they were done black at the factory. If they had been painted separately, off the tractor, at the factory, they would not have started.

I can certainly see it adding to time and cost, but why do you say they wouldn't have started?

showcrop · Oct 18, 2015

(quoted from post at 19:24:57 10/17/15)

(quoted from post at 21:42:49 10/17/15)

(quoted from post at 21:39:00 01/30/15) "Ya can have any color ya like as long as its Black"

Nah, I've painted some red for guys that wanted them red.
The problem isn't the color, it's matching the color of the tractor.
Too many different brands/shades to say for sure it will match.
Then of course there are the fade rates that vary.
Most times it's easier to have a nicely contrasting black carb.

Click to expand...

And that is exactly why most older tractors have black starters and generators. They pretty much ALL go to the repair shop at some point and come back black, so many people think that they were done black at the factory. If they had been painted separately, off the tractor, at the factory, they would not have started.

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I can certainly see it adding to time and cost, but why do you say they wouldn't have started?

It comes up here every now and then where someone has been doing extensive overhaul work and after assembly it won't crank. They are often asked if they painted the surface where the starter mounts, as the paint can interfere with the grounding of the starter, so if at the factory they were painted with the starter off there would be paint on the mating surface so it may not crank.

Tom N MS · Oct 18, 2015

(quoted from post at 17:43:17 01/30/15) Royce, What kind (brand) of paint do you use?

Nice..Now-if they work as good as they look and I'm sure they will....

Royse · Oct 18, 2015

(quoted from post at 13:04:29 10/18/15)

(quoted from post at 17:43:17 01/30/15) Royce, What kind (brand) of paint do you use?

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Nice..Now-if they work as good as they look and I'm sure they will....

They will Tom, or I'll do it over on my dime.
I test every one of them on my tractor before it leaves so I know it's right.
You get it back, bolt it on and go.
If your tractor breathes far different than mine, I will help adjust the carb over the phone.

Royse · Oct 18, 2015

(quoted from post at 09:02:27 10/18/15)

(quoted from post at 19:24:57 10/17/15)

(quoted from post at 21:42:49 10/17/15)

(quoted from post at 21:39:00 01/30/15) "Ya can have any color ya like as long as its Black"

Nah, I've painted some red for guys that wanted them red.
The problem isn't the color, it's matching the color of the tractor.
Too many different brands/shades to say for sure it will match.
Then of course there are the fade rates that vary.
Most times it's easier to have a nicely contrasting black carb.

Click to expand...

And that is exactly why most older tractors have black starters and generators. They pretty much ALL go to the repair shop at some point and come back black, so many people think that they were done black at the factory. If they had been painted separately, off the tractor, at the factory, they would not have started.

Click to expand...

I can certainly see it adding to time and cost, but why do you say they wouldn't have started?

Click to expand...

It comes up here every now and then where someone has been doing extensive overhaul work and after assembly it won't crank. They are often asked if they painted the surface where the starter mounts, as the paint can interfere with the grounding of the starter, so if at the factory they were painted with the starter off there would be paint on the mating surface so it may not crank.

Ah, I see what you're saying about the starters now.
My mind was thinking about the carbs I guess.

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