Transmission cover question...

David_V

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My 9N, *9N7701*, has from what I can figure out the wrong cover on the transmission. I think it is supposed to have the cover with the dip stick just in front of the fill plug. The dash board doesn't look right either, the start button should be below the ammeter, not on the cover to the transmission.

My question is; if I got the right cover (anyone?) would it be interchangeable with the one there now, or is the whole transmission case different?
 
(quoted from post at 05:02:27 01/17/15) My 9N, *9N7701*, has from what I can figure out the wrong cover on the transmission. I think it is supposed to have the cover with the dip stick just in front of the fill plug. The dash board doesn't look right either, the start button should be below the ammeter, not on the cover to the transmission.

My question is; if I got the right cover (anyone?) would it be interchangeable with the one there now, or is the whole transmission case different?

Go to this site to find out all you want to know.

http://www.oldfordtractors.com/idhistory.htm
 
With cover and dash wrong, check out other numbers and
clues. Might be a correct tractor and swapped engine, these
different serial number.
 
If early enough to have starter switch in dash, then there should not be holes for starter switch push rod & switch mounting on front of steering pedestal, so the transmission cover start switch could not be used.
 
The cover that has the dipstick in front of the fill plug will bolt onto the later transmission housings but you will need to drill the transmission case for the dipstick to go down through. If you have the early transmission with the later cover you can just change the cover.

Mark
 
9N 7701 would originally have had a trans dip
stick in the trans cover and no safety starter.
The dash would have had the starter button to the
the left of the amp gauge and the key switch to
the right of the oil gauge. I have 9N 7807 and
5262 if you would like to see pictures. The
aluminum dashes and trans covers were prone to
cracking and so may have been replaced with later
styles.
 
(quoted from post at 14:06:33 01/16/15) With cover and dash wrong, check out other numbers and
clues. Might be a correct tractor and swapped engine, these
different serial number.
believe the tractor has been rolled backwards. The loop for the top link on the rear end housing has been welded back on, the steering wheel is wrong, along with the dash and tranny cover.

The rest of the thing looks right for an early one, H shaped radius rods, no key in the steering spindle, no flange on the center kingpin, attachments on the inside of the doglegs, and the bolt holes for the rear fenders are solid instead of two flanges.

The steering wheel, dash, and the tranny cover would likely be damaged in a roll over like that.
 
Go to this site to find out all you want to know.

http://www.oldfordtractors.com/idhistory.htm
've been there. That's how I know the cover is wrong, but it did not answer the questions I asked here.... which is why I asked.
 
(quoted from post at 15:42:45 01/16/15) 9N 7701 would originally have had a trans dip
stick in the trans cover and no safety starter.
The dash would have had the starter button to the
the left of the amp gauge and the key switch to
the right of the oil gauge. I have 9N 7807 and
5262 if you would like to see pictures. The
aluminum dashes and trans covers were prone to
cracking and so may have been replaced with later
styles.
'd like to see the dash for the 7807. Then I'd know what to look for. I don't think my tractor is early enough for the aluminum dash, steering column, or hood. The hood on the first ~700 were aluminum and I assume the aluminum dash and column were for those few also.
 
Your tractor would not have had an aluminum hood,
but would have originally had the aluminum dash
and trans cover. Here is a picture of the dash on
7807. It shows the starter button to the left of
the amp gauge, the ignition key on the right and
the ignition on light below the amp gauge. I have
a 1939 aluminum dash and transmission cover on a
running parts tractor if you are interested. Email
is open.
39-9N-003-1.jpg
 
You sure have some nice tractors Harold.
I notice you are using the new fangled foam type tie rod end boot. Is that from the dealer?
I ordered a new boot for my 4400 from CNH and it came that way. Seems it will work good - if it holds up.
 
Not foam -- but leather. D C and Just 8Ns have them. More expensive than the rubber ones, but last much much longer.
 
(quoted from post at 17:30:16 01/16/15) And here is a picture of a transmission cover.
hanks for those pictures. They are a great help.

Your email and PM are turned off though.
 
Ahh.
It was the yellow color...
The one I bought is some kind of a
semi-hard yellow foam rubber washer. It doesn't clip on in any way just slips on and is squeezed tight by the steering arm and the tie rod. Hadn't seen anything like it before.

100_1946.jpg
 
(quoted from post at 17:25:03 01/16/15) Your tractor would not have had an aluminum hood,
but would have originally had the aluminum dash
and trans cover. Here is a picture of the dash on
7807. It shows the starter button to the left of
the amp gauge, the ignition key on the right and
the ignition on light below the amp gauge. I have
a 1939 aluminum dash and transmission cover on a
running parts tractor if you are interested. Email
is open.
hanks for the pictures. I'm interested but your email and PMs are turned off. You can email me if you still want to part with those parts. Thanks.
 
Was at my favorite shopping place last weekend (tractor salvage in Madisonville TN) and saw the tranny cover your looking for,with key on upper right dash and starter button on upper left,w/ dipstick in cover...you want it?..I'll go get it,just gives me a reason to go back,shipping might not be so good though!
 
(quoted from post at 18:14:24 01/20/15) Was at my favorite shopping place last weekend (tractor salvage in Madisonville TN) and saw the tranny cover your looking for,with key on upper right dash and starter button on upper left,w/ dipstick in cover...you want it?..I'll go get it,just gives me a reason to go back,shipping might not be so good though!
'm afraid of what it would cost. I'm a seasonal park ranger in Yosemite and 6 months off leaves me with very little money in the winter. I've already blown my winter budget for tractor parts on the bearings for both sides the rear end and a brake kit for one side (other side already done).

Would you be going back there this summer?
 
(quoted from post at 05:43:21 01/21/15) I'm sure I will, I like to pick parts.
f you're down that way again, see what they want. No rush. I won't be working on that part of the tractor until next winter. Restoring this thing is a long term project. Thanks.
 
I'll give them a call,they are not always by the phone. I'll post back.took my wife on Sunday for a triple whammy,A&W for lunch(love that root beer,drive in only) then tractor yard (the wife picked up a golden jubilee badge cuz she thought it was cool) then to the locally famous country ham store(Benton's)
Now that was a good day indeed!! Beautiful weather that day in E. Tennessee
 
Thanks again. I love the A&W root beer. Not many of those places left. Most out here are combined with a KFC. They're not the same.

I need to find a bone yard around here. The closest one doesn't have much in the way of pre WWII stuff. All the early Ford stuff was bought up years ago or recycled in the war.
 
Guy said $150.00 I don't know if that's a good price? Maybe somebody else can vouch for that? At least it aluminum add not cast so should be lighter to ship
Yeah,I haven't seen many stand alone A&W's I think the last one I went to was 30years ago
 
Thank you. $150 doesn't sound all that bad. At least $50 or so for shipping. I'll be able to afford it once I get back to work in the spring. Those are the only parts on the tractor, other than the riveted axles, that do not go along with the serial number. The smooth axles cost way too much so the riveted ones will have to do.
 

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