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Bob Harvey
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Generally means the ends have had solder applied to them. HTH
As in coated to prevent corrosion.
Here's a good read, not a tech article, but one I coil scare up to help u understand
tinned wire
Here's a good read, not a tech article, but one I coil scare up to help u understand
tinned wire
Caryc........whatcha gonna doo with 100ft of sparkie wire??? NAPA sells sets of 4-cylinder COPPER core sparkie wire. ($10, cheap) When I re-sparkled my eazy starting 52-8N, the original sparkie wire was STIFF as brake tubing and the blue sparkies danced all over the outside of the wires.
I bought copper core HOT-ROD sparkie wire fer Chebby V-8 'cuz they had built-in right-angle booties to fit under the gas tank. (now I gotta spare set of sparkie wires, eh?) The NEW copper core sparkie wires are limp as wet noodle and no blue sparkies dancin' outside.
You do know why we specify copper core 'stedda modern string sparkie wire, don't you? The string is actually a CARBON RESISTOR to suppress IGNITION NOISE that drives modern engine computer control NUTZ. Besides that, modern sparkie volts are about 2-times HOTTER yer N-Sparkies.
You should be happy yer not changin' sparkie wires on WW-2 B-17 Bombers where the sparkie wire was INSIDE woven braid ground shields.
Do as we ADVISE, don't fight it....... respectfully, yer sparkie-meister Dell
I bought copper core HOT-ROD sparkie wire fer Chebby V-8 'cuz they had built-in right-angle booties to fit under the gas tank. (now I gotta spare set of sparkie wires, eh?) The NEW copper core sparkie wires are limp as wet noodle and no blue sparkies dancin' outside.
You do know why we specify copper core 'stedda modern string sparkie wire, don't you? The string is actually a CARBON RESISTOR to suppress IGNITION NOISE that drives modern engine computer control NUTZ. Besides that, modern sparkie volts are about 2-times HOTTER yer N-Sparkies.
You should be happy yer not changin' sparkie wires on WW-2 B-17 Bombers where the sparkie wire was INSIDE woven braid ground shields.
Do as we ADVISE, don't fight it....... respectfully, yer sparkie-meister Dell
I've been making up my own spark plug wires. Napa sells wire by the foot but is is not copper core. It is a metal stranded wire though but I don't know what the material is. So far I have not had any problems with it.
I just thought I'd like to get some good copper core wire though.
I like making up my own wires so I can make them the exact length I need. I put the plug end and boots on first then at the distributor I know exactly where to cut it for the correct length.
Plus with by the foot wire, I always have the stuff to make up a new wire should I need it, or a whole new set.
I could only find copper core wire in 100 foot rolls. Forty bucks is not a bad price for 100 feet of tinned copper core wire.
(quoted from post at 19:05:04 12/17/14) Caryc,You can get your copper sparkies right here at this site.
plug wires,wires
Thanks guys but you don't seem to understand. I'm not looking for ready made plug wire sets.
As I said, I like making my own and always having the stuff on hand to make up a new wire should I need it or a whole new set.
You don;t read well do you.
Description: Universal Spark Plug Wire Set, 4 Cylinder, 90 degree boot,CUT TO LENGTH. Longest Reach is 33 inches. Solid brass distributor coils, Zinc-coated plug terminals, tin-coated copper core, boots constructed from EPDM rubber and dual-jacket insulation. Meets SAE J2031 Specifications. Made in the USA.
Spark Plug Wire Set, Universal, 4 Cyl. Part Number CPN12259
Description: Universal Spark Plug Wire Set, 4 Cylinder, 90 degree boot,CUT TO LENGTH. Longest Reach is 33 inches. Solid brass distributor coils, Zinc-coated plug terminals, tin-coated copper core, boots constructed from EPDM rubber and dual-jacket insulation. Meets SAE J2031 Specifications. Made in the USA.
Spark Plug Wire Set, Universal, 4 Cyl. Part Number CPN12259
For your information I know how to read. I don't want wires already cut. I want wire in a roll that I can cut to the lengths that I want without throwing anything away.
[b:859e99674f][color=red:859e99674f][size=18:859e99674f]Can you read that? [/size:859e99674f] [/color:859e99674f][/b:859e99674f]
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Tall T
Well-known Member
I like Sound's explanation and link.
This question about the wires said to be copper but looking silver
keeps coming up.
I keep repeating (in two threads or more) that the bright yellow wire called "Silicone Tiger tails" that I made a set out of appeared to be silver wire, but when looking under a magnifying glass, EACH SILVER/TINNED STRAND APPEARS TO HAVE A TINY COPPER CORE.
So after the third time . . . anyone hear it this time?
I know it is metal cable cored plug wire because I soldered all of my ends to the wire core.
........and if someday Santa brings a Pertronix Ignitor II to your tractor, then all that wire will be scrap. Not this Christmas though.
Pertronix Ignitor II
"You cannot use solid core (typically copper) spark plug wires with this product. Solid core wires do not suppress electro magnetic interference (EMI) which will interfere with electronics in[u:be2cb720ef] this [/u:be2cb720ef]product. A suppression style or spiral wound spark plug wires must be used. "
greywolf224
Member
Normally only Multistranded wire of a small gauge is tinned.
The tinning process is [b:0074c74324]NORMALLY[/b:0074c74324] not performed by the manufacture of the wire but by the middle man that buys bulk wire and uses it in a product that they sell.
Tinning eliminates those frayed ends that may break off while handling the wire and thus ending up with a smaller gauged wire that you originally started with which can cause wire failure in the case of excessive current draw than what the wire is rated for.
"Crap that's a long run on sentence'
Just want to be clear that only the exposed ends are tinned.
I have seen where the entire wire is tinned during the manf process. But that lessens the flexible properties that a multistanded wire originally gives you.
The tinning process is [b:0074c74324]NORMALLY[/b:0074c74324] not performed by the manufacture of the wire but by the middle man that buys bulk wire and uses it in a product that they sell.
Tinning eliminates those frayed ends that may break off while handling the wire and thus ending up with a smaller gauged wire that you originally started with which can cause wire failure in the case of excessive current draw than what the wire is rated for.
"Crap that's a long run on sentence'
Just want to be clear that only the exposed ends are tinned.
I have seen where the entire wire is tinned during the manf process. But that lessens the flexible properties that a multistanded wire originally gives you.
The plug wires I have are copper core with each individual strand tinned. I know it's done on individual strands in this case because I separated them after I poked the wire through the metal ends. They were not stuck together at all.
Most tinned wire I have seen is done by the manufacturer before the individual strands are assembled into wire.
Interesting article about how tinning may not be needed in many applications.
And this one is about the differences between bare and tinned copper wire. It mentions that individual strands are tinned before assembly into wire to prevent the strands from sticking to each other.
Most tinned wire I have seen is done by the manufacturer before the individual strands are assembled into wire.
Interesting article about how tinning may not be needed in many applications.
And this one is about the differences between bare and tinned copper wire. It mentions that individual strands are tinned before assembly into wire to prevent the strands from sticking to each other.
Cary, that's where context comes in.
'tinning a wire' when you are refering to soldering, etc. means jus the end is tinned. tinned ends prevent fraying, and also make it easier to solder.
for bulk wire on a roll or premade where the copper wire is tinned... then that's the other example the rest of us are talking about. it tin plated wire which is then bundled.. etc.
basically you are getting manufacturing lingo, and electronics lingo overlapping .
Anyway, hope you find perhaps something under 100' that a lot of wire! good luck
merry christmas.
'tinning a wire' when you are refering to soldering, etc. means jus the end is tinned. tinned ends prevent fraying, and also make it easier to solder.
for bulk wire on a roll or premade where the copper wire is tinned... then that's the other example the rest of us are talking about. it tin plated wire which is then bundled.. etc.
basically you are getting manufacturing lingo, and electronics lingo overlapping .
Anyway, hope you find perhaps something under 100' that a lot of wire! good luck
merry christmas.
greywolf224
Member
Yes interesting article.
My understanding is that if the entire wire is tinned it probably came from a bulk roll that was bought by a middle man who would be cutting that wire to many different lengths. In this way the middle man would not have to spend time and money tinning all the ends of various length wire. They paid up front and had the manf tin the wire when it was made.
Non tinned wire cheaper to make and falls back on the middle man if they want it tinned or not which they can do after cutting the wire to needed lengths.
Non tinned copper wire is a better conductor than tinned copper. Tinning just the ends does not minimize that conductivity to a large degree.
It really all depends on what the end user needs.
Me personally I like non tinned multistranded wire and tin the ends myself as I need it.
My understanding is that if the entire wire is tinned it probably came from a bulk roll that was bought by a middle man who would be cutting that wire to many different lengths. In this way the middle man would not have to spend time and money tinning all the ends of various length wire. They paid up front and had the manf tin the wire when it was made.
Non tinned wire cheaper to make and falls back on the middle man if they want it tinned or not which they can do after cutting the wire to needed lengths.
Non tinned copper wire is a better conductor than tinned copper. Tinning just the ends does not minimize that conductivity to a large degree.
It really all depends on what the end user needs.
Me personally I like non tinned multistranded wire and tin the ends myself as I need it.
Tall T
Well-known Member
Yes, each strand individually tinned.
From my invoice:
4' of 7mm copper core ignition wire ___ $7.16
8 Plug end terms___________________ $2.96
4 Spark Plug boots ___________________ $3.96
4 Dist cap boots _____________________ $2.76
Getting up there I know! :shock:
The distributor cap ends are 45 degrees, not 90, which I'm glad of. Straight will work fine too but require a little more wire.
I should have bought 4.5' of wire, because 4' was the bare minimum as it turned out.
I drilled a hole in each Plug terminal to draw the wire through.
The 45's came with a hole.
From my invoice:
4' of 7mm copper core ignition wire ___ $7.16
8 Plug end terms___________________ $2.96
4 Spark Plug boots ___________________ $3.96
4 Dist cap boots _____________________ $2.76
Getting up there I know! :shock:
The distributor cap ends are 45 degrees, not 90, which I'm glad of. Straight will work fine too but require a little more wire.
I should have bought 4.5' of wire, because 4' was the bare minimum as it turned out.
I drilled a hole in each Plug terminal to draw the wire through.
The 45's came with a hole.
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