9N, 2N, 8N with diesel ?

Hello,

Did the 9N, 2N, or 8N ever come with a diesel. I have tried to look for it, and have seen some mentioning of it for tractors in England, also the NAA with diesel in England. Is this true, or not, and if true, what diesel was used if anyone knows.

I have tried to search for info and specs, but not been able to dig up any hard facts of it.


Bill

Kerosene/oil perhaps?

HI,
I am no expert on the matter, but Ford made the fordson in England. Diesel was used much more across the pond than here.
Perkins engines were used. As to how many years or what years the Perkins were used I am not sure.
The Perkins engine from my reading is what was referred to a Ford Perkins. I think they were made to Ford specs.( I am not sure)
Bob , is correct there was a kerosene (or distliate) variant, but most of those were shipped over seas.

http://www.oldfordtractors.com/idhistory.htm

The NAA in the US also had a kerosene ( or distillate) variant. The NAB

(quoted from post at 01:31:25 12/12/14) Hello,

Did the 9N, 2N, or 8N ever come with a diesel. I have tried to look for it, and have seen some mentioning of it for tractors in England, also the NAA with diesel in England. Is this true, or not, and if true, what diesel was used if anyone knows.

I have tried to search for info and specs, but not been able to dig up any hard facts of it.


Bill

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ll 9N/2N/8N tractors used 'spark' engines, either gas or distillate.

The only N series fords that used diesel somebody
did an engine swap.

I do think Ferguson made some diesels in the TO30?

Well the owners manual for the NAA does not have that as an option so where do you come up with this I have never heard of it and as I said not in the manual

No TO-20's or TO-30's were built with diesel engines. It was the English made Ferguson TEF-20 that was diesel.

I remember reading about that particular Perkins engine. If I remember correctly it was a cheaper built engine than the normal Perkins engines of that time. I'm not saying it wasn't a good engine, they just changed some things so it could be built cheaper. I can't remember exactly what off the top of my head though.

Ever see a ZD129 or ZD129F. Power unit or boat engine? I think there was a ZD120 also .
Not very common.
This site sells manuals
Continental Engine ZD-129 Dsl Engine- Service Manual

Ferguson made the diesel TE-F20 starting in 1951 or so, and best I can recall Perkins made kits before this for converting a TE20 to diesel. I think Ford just didn't have much interest or experience with diesel.

But those weren't used in tractors.

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I remember reading about that particular Perkins engine. If I remember correctly it was a cheaper built engine than the normal Perkins engines of that time. I'm not saying it wasn't a good engine, they just changed some things so it could be built cheaper. I can't remember exactly what off the top of my head though.

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Well, I will first reply to this. Here is what I know about Perkins in Fordson. Fordson in the UK made the Dexta and later the little bigger Super Dexta. I think the Dexta had the 3 cylinder F3-144, while the Super Dexta had the F3-152. The 144 engine is the "same" as Perkins offered as a kit to the Ferguson TE 20 series tractors, and I think I have heard rumors that they also delivered that engine to Fords too, and others.
The 152 is the "same" as the MF 35 had.
I say "same", but it is not the same. At least the 152 engine I think Ford made all the castings, or at least the major parts, put them on trucks and brought them to Perkins, and brought Complete engines back to Fordson to put them in the tractors.
I am not sure how much difference there is in them, but I know of one significant one and which in theory could be a big issue, and I know of a friend of mine who really had a lot of trouble With it and had to have his engine rebuilt two or Three times for this. The sleeve in the Perkins A3-152 has a Ridge on top so it can not sag, while the F3-152 does not have a Ridge, and in cases where the fitting is not tight enough, the sleeve sags, the crank hits it, and you all know how that goes. That is like the "manure hit the fan".
Other than this, I have not heard of any issues With them.

Bill

Yes, a good question. How did I come up with that. A couple of days ago I was browsing the net, and read something about at least the NAA built in England With diesel, but also the 8N, and I even found a Picture of such a diesel engine Block where the oil filter was supposed to be mounted exactly in the middle of the Block a bit Down, but I have forgotten if it was on the right or left side.

But, I can not find it again, been looking all over. Unfortunately I did not put the pages in my favorites and did not look where it was. Anyway, when I saw it I found it a little odd and thought I should ask here in the forum to see if anyone else knew about it, or if it is only silly nonsense.


Bill

And when you think you can not find it, you find it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Tractor-Motor-Engine-Block-only-Jubilee-Naa-600-601-621-631-641-681-EAE6015-/111235610817?pt=BI_Heavy_Equipment_Parts&hash=item19e628b8c1


Bill

Did you ever see one and what were they used in?
Sure make a conversion piece in a TO30.

And when you think you can not find it, you find it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Tractor-Motor-Engine-Block-only-Jubilee-Naa-600-601-621-631-641-681-EAE6015-/111235610817?pt=BI_Heavy_Equipment_Parts&hash=item19e628b8c1


Bill

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There is nothing special about that engine block. That is just a regular NAA 134 CID Gasoline engine block!