Well THAT didn't work so well.

Ultradog MN · Dec 6, 2014

I <a href="http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=nboard&th=939053" target="_blank">posted last weekend</a> about doubling the number of cross chains on my tractor.
Figured it would put more chain on top of the lugs.
So we finally had a nice day today (28°) and I added the cross chains to the other side.
And put one on.
Aint that a kick in the rear?!
The cross chains fit just about perfectly BETWEEN the lugs all the way around.
Pretty much No chain on top.
Grrr!
I'm going to have to go to plan B but don't know what plan B is yet.
Maybe I'll get them on by spring.

Mike Groom · Dec 6, 2014

You just need bald tires!

GB in MT. · Dec 6, 2014

[b:6de9d0fb4e][i:6de9d0fb4e]
Jerry;
Might cost ya more than you want to spend, BUT.....Buy some extra strong links, to attach to the ladder chains, and make a set of "DUO-LINK" chains out of them.
That's what I bought at the outset, and they work GREAT!!!!!?????

Thinkin' out of the box!!!

Gary[/i:6de9d0fb4e][/b:6de9d0fb4e]

KCTractors · Dec 6, 2014

I would loosen the chains a little bit, as the tire rotates, I bet the lug of the tire would catch the chains. Just my thought!

Tall T · Dec 6, 2014

You wrote:
I'm going to have to go to plan B but don't know what plan B is yet.
Maybe I'll get them on by spring.

How about this:
Stagger the placement of short chains whereby each one would be forced to ride over a lug. (?)

TT

s19438 · Dec 6, 2014

I was thinking that too. once had an 8N with turf tires and the same chains. worked great !

greywolf224 · Dec 6, 2014

Ultra how about a duo Trac design. Maybe with a bunch of quick links. Sort of a spinoff of Tall's idea.

Sorry for the picture quality

Ultradog MN · Dec 6, 2014

Yeah both ideas would probably work.
Sure is a lot of monkeying around though.
Might just be easier to move to Texas.

teddy52food · Dec 6, 2014

Loosen the chains & see how the are at the bottom, not the top.

Royse · Dec 6, 2014

Might be the angle of the picture, but they look awfully close to
that pretty painted fender. I'd hate to have them come loose at all!

Tall T · Dec 6, 2014

Part of the reasoning behind my staggering suggestion, was that because of the ample number of cross chains you have, I think you might get away with using less chain (less labor) than if you created multiple H's.

But maybe an H, then skip a chain, then another H.

T

willie in mn · Dec 6, 2014

Or maybe plan C would work. I have a set of that type chain in the shed, been thinking about it, but want someone else to try it first.
Unhook one end of a cross chain, loop it around the next one, & rehook where it was. Thus making a big X. No cost for materials, just a little time. Do 2 or 3 to see how it looks.
Willie

notjustair · Dec 6, 2014

My 8N has a little larger tire on it. When the chains are on
they are REALLY close to the fenders. They (fenders) look like
they have been through a war so I'm not too worried about it.
You only curl your fingers around the top of the fender ONE
TIME, let me tell you. Nothing like being bloodied by your own
tire chains.

Tall T · Dec 6, 2014

Man, I needed to hear that about the fingers.
Maybe if I ever get into wearing them a lot I'll make two fender extensions so as to keep arms and fingers out.

But the puny blanket of snow we just had -- it was nice though -- fell one day then stopped for a very cold, frosty, sparkling blanket that lasted 10 days.

It has melted away
In the last three days.
No snow on the 9N down the road
And I thank my lucky Jube
For the warm chimney flue . . . .
and otherwise lightening my load. 8)

Thanks!
T

jon · Dec 6, 2014

You just need a handful of S hooks. :wink:

greywolf224 · Dec 6, 2014

(quoted from post at 01:00:11 12/07/14) You just need a handful of S hooks. :wink:

Guessing you would bend them closed. Do you think they would hold?

I ask because I am very interested in using them.

Tall T · Dec 6, 2014

They don't look heavy enough to me.
Need those links that you pound shut & maybe spot weld, don't you think? Can't remember what they're called.

And if the S hooks should open up then they endanger the tire . . . so then that would leave [b:81e0c698a1]2 [/b:81e0c698a1]spot welds to prevent.

I actually thought the first s-hook poster was joking. :wink:

Many of the tractor gurus would know what those closeable links
are called. Saw a skidder chains vid that used them as I recall.

T

greywolf224 · Dec 6, 2014

That was my exact thinking or using quick links.

Tall T · Dec 6, 2014

So that's what they're called.

greywolf224 · Dec 6, 2014

Quicklinks. I always keep a mess around to string up my tow chains

Tall T · Dec 6, 2014

I wasn't meaning those ones . . . aren't they too expensive? The light duty ones are $1.00 each. (?)

I was kind of thinking of these and weld or braze them shut.

Tall T · Dec 7, 2014

Meanwhile back in Minnesota
UltraDog 2000 who is probably in dreamland
And saving some soul from a tractor disaster
Unaware that his thread has been hyjacked
Knows exactly which links he'll use.

Ha Ha

Who knows what evil lurks behind the cue ball
The scratch knows

And so does Ultradog

NNP · Dec 7, 2014

Do you still have those slick brackets you made to move the fenders in?
If so move them in, then on your added every other cross chain...make them longer.
The original cross chains will keep the chains tight.
The extras flopping loosely will get under the tread when you are
in the snow.

ps, I salute your hard work.....but it's easier/cheaper to just add another set of chains...or 2...right over the ones on there.
(fender will need to be moved some)

another ps, If you don't have those fender brackets anymore.
The rear brackets off an old jungle gym loader work Very well.
They move the fenders in and UP.

Pete Hall · Dec 7, 2014

These are lap links
Ive had great results with them
you dont have to weld
put the bottom side in avise and use large channel lock pliers and twist the whole lap one way and then back.the seam will be tight
you can spot weld if you choose to

Ultradog MN · Dec 7, 2014

Royse, NNP, Notjustair,
Thanks
This is that tractor I've been working on all summer and fall.
The axles have slots to set the spacing on the fenders. I have one more set of slots and planned to set the fenders in before running the chains.
Not an N but chains are chains...

Ultradog MN · Dec 7, 2014

I see you kids were up playing long after Mom and I went to bed.
Now go clean up the living room and I'll start making some pancakes.
Got that home made maple syrup to put on them.

Ultradog MN · Dec 7, 2014

I made these plates a few years ago so I could move my fenders in about 1 3/4" for chains.
Easy to make and a Lot easier to use these than move the tires out on a tractor with single location for mounting the fenders.

DAS · Dec 7, 2014

(quoted from post at 22:29:55 12/06/14)
So that's what they're called.

Cold shuts

Tall T · Dec 7, 2014

Hey thanks Das!

Cold Shuts

and Pete . . . Lap Links.

jon · Dec 7, 2014

Guessing you would bend them closed. Do you think they would hold?

You can get these in all different sizes & strengths.
I would imagine most any chain connecter would work though.

CameronP · Dec 8, 2014

I had the same problem last year. Tried the cold
shuts, and it worked (kind of). Most of the chain
fell between the lugs still. And I ended up
spending quite a bit on cold shuts (you need more
than you think and the hardware store didn't have
enough so I had to pay for shipping.

This year, I bit the bullet and bought a set of
new double ring chains. No falling between lugs
and massive traction. Rough ride though

Lumpy · Dec 8, 2014

One set of my chains are like these. BARELY used! The other set is similar to what CameronP posted.
Both sets are for sale!!!
I live near Davenport, IA
My email is open.

Lumpy · Dec 8, 2014

Bummer! Back to the drawing board.
I would like to sell the 2 sets that I have.
1 set is like the Duo Trac pic posted below. BARELY used!
The other set is similar to the ones CameronP posted.
They were for 11.2x28 tires.
I live near Davenport, IA
My email is open!

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