8n/9n block

Bought an 8N to rebuild. Took head off and found a cracked block. Anyone have a block for sale anywhere in or near Mississippi?
 
ebay has some, search ASAP (All States Ag Parts) depending on how bad its cracked and where its cracked it may be fixable.
 
Sometimes I fail to understand things.
You are looking for another block to fix this tractor.
So tell me if my arithmetic is close.
Block = $400
Rebuild = $1500
Misc = $200
When you're done you'll have a nice running N.
On the other hand...
Sell off your N as a parts tractor for $600
Then ad the $2100 you were going to spend on an engine and rebuild.
You'll be darned close to paying for any of the tractors below.
And you'll have WAY more tractor.
These are just a few I found on SearchTempest within 250 miles of Jackson, MS

<a href="http://shoals.craigslist.org/grq/4777286855.html" target="_blank">Here's a nice 2000 for $2500</a>

<a href="http://littlerock.craigslist.org/grd/4716408098.html" target="_blank">A 3000 for $3000</a>

<a href="http://batonrouge.craigslist.org/grd/4748023320.html" target="_blank">A 600 for $2800</a>

<a href="http://shoals.craigslist.org/grd/4777048045.html" target="_blank">Nice looking 641 for $3250</a>
 
I'll take the 2000 for $2500.
Great prizes in this game show!

Your sagely advice to Charner reminded me of when I bought mine. I was offered a '58 International dirt cheap, but it was a beater and the owner said the oil pressure dropped off the scale when hot. so i went away thinking that just once I'd like something classic and affordable that I could use without having to rebuild everything first. So I spent $3500 on the Jube with tons of extras thrown in and 6 attachments -- if you count the PTO Belt Pulley.

I still have my fingers crossed, but i think I did good. :)
 
Geez poor guy asks for a block and gets attacked. A wise man once told me : don't confuse sarcasm for intelligence
 
Are you planning on doing all the work, if so, I wouldn't think a rebuild should cost that much. I think the kit is around $400 and if there is any machine work required I would think you could find a shop to do it for less then $1100..
I find it interesting how many people on this site pressure us to throw away our N's instead of fixing them to get a bigger tractor... I say if you own the tractor you want , then you should fix it. If you would rather have something different, that would be your answer... Either way about it, I would think it doesn't really matter what someone else thinks is best.

Here in the Wichita Kansas area a guy on CL is selling an N with a bunch of parts and accessories and the motor he pulled out of it a couple years ago. He said it ran on low or no oil pressure for a few seconds due to the pick up tube falling off. Claims he caught it before any damage, fixed the tube and ran it for a few years after it, but replace the motor anyways because he didn't trust it anymore. He is selling the core for $300 or $2000 for everything..
His Posting: http://wichita.craigslist.org/grd/4776080210.html
Jeff
 
Interesting adage ep!

I was faced with just that the other day on the "backfire" thread, but I didn't bite.

P.S.
I think UD's intentions were good though.
 
This one caught my attention today. Ford 2000 3 cyl with PS,
front dozer blade and back blade with tail wheel. [b:70d8622851] $3000[/b:70d8622851]
Its not my ad and I don't have a spare block at the moment.
 
Ultradog you and I have been threw this before. I like you and respect your option. You are right to a degree. There are better tractors out there. But these 'N' are worth fixing. Maybe not if you are trying to make money. $400 for a block? You can do better than that. Rebuild $1500? Who's doing the work? They can be fixed on the cheap. And will do the work of the tractors with all the options, Just not as easily maybe.
The man is just looking for a block.
Below is a deal in my area the would put him back in business for for $200. Plus mission creep. As tends to be most all of our problem. We all want to make it better. But that's a good thing.
On the field AGAIN
 
You didn't mention where exactly where on the block the crack is. I got my '41 9n 12 years ago,and upon cleaning to paint,I found a crack that some poor deluded soul had repaired[successfully] with Bondo. I took all that off,and ground a"V" in the crack,and filled it with JB weld,ground that smooth and it is indistinguishable from it's surroundings. I could have welded it,but most areas in the block aren't subject to much if any pressurized liquids.
 
I didn't intend to offend. I stated an opinion and offered what I thought was good advice.
We still don't know if Charner is doing the work himself nor having it done elsewhere.
A friend of mine owns a second generation tractor repair shop. I see Ns in his shop for all kinds of different things but he does a lot of rebuilds too. Start to finish a rebuild is going to run you about $2K depending on how much machine work it needs. If the customer needs a new/used block that will be extra.
I know if you have the skills to rebuild one yourself it can be done much cheaper. If you don't need the head milled, crank ground and block decked it can be done for well under a grand.
In my opinion putting a grand into a familiar, trustworthy tractor is fine. But to put 2 grand into one does not make economic sense to me.
Different if you have a family tractor or something with a low serial #, etc that you want to restore. No qualms from me there.
Some people here have 10 times the experience on tractors that I have. I also see a lot of people who had never been on a tractor till they bought an N.
How would they know about the advantages of live hydraulics, power steering, live or independent pto, differential lock, remote hydraulics, more gears, etc that tractors just a few years newer - for just a few bucks more - unless folks who own those tractors tell them?
Drive what tractor you like. Spend as much as you like. You'll get no pressure, attacks or criticism from me.
When you ask a question on a forum like this you don't get to choose what advice will be offered.
You can only choose what advice you will follow.
Another wise man once said don't be like the calf who kicks his mother because he doesn't like the taste of her milk.
 

One of the biggest reasons I have that get me drawn into this site is that there is no BS when it comes to advice. Its take it or leave it attitude. No fluff, no time to repeat he same thing 5 time's if you don't understand state it. If you disagree state it and move on. All advice comes from being "tried and trued and its FREE!".
If you want a buttered up response go join a food.com discussion board.

You need to understand where most of the folks on this site offering advice come from. They don't tinker with these machines only on a Saturday afternoon such as admittingly I do cutting grass, most all of the livelihoods of the folks on this site were made and still are being made surrounding these machines. So I can understand that they do take things to heart when it comes to their responses. This advice is better than any damn manual can ever supply.
 
(quoted from post at 09:50:11 12/05/14)
One of the biggest reasons I have that get me drawn into this site is that there is no BS when it comes to advice. Its take it or leave it attitude. No fluff, no time to repeat he same thing 5 time's if you don't understand state it. If you disagree state it and move on. All advice comes from being "tried and trued and its FREE!".
If you want a buttered up response go join a food.com discussion board.

You need to understand where most of the folks on this site offering advice come from. They don't tinker with these machines only on a Saturday afternoon such as admittingly I do cutting grass, most all of the livelihoods of the folks on this site were made and still are being made surrounding these machines. So I can understand that they do take things to heart when it comes to their responses. This advice is better than any damn manual can ever supply.
dvice/opinion? :p
 
I appreciate all the replies on locating this block. Some were helpful. When I bought this tractor (48 8N) there was oil in the water and water in the oil. I expected the block was bad but the rubber, sheet metal, etc. was very good and for $600 didn't think I could go wrong. I have rebuilt, repair and sold 34 of these wonderful old tractors. I do all my own work. This is a hobby I love. I do not charge any labor only out of pocket expenses. Isn't it a little comforting to know there are 34 of these old machines in use that had been exposed to rust and/or the scrapyard. I don't know about you but this 77 year old fat man love my hobby. I have about 10,000 miles on by shop chair. Play nice fellows.
 
But then again if you didn't offer your advise then they would say I wish someone would have told me before I spent 2K on an engine that my tractor still only worth $1500.
Can't win either way.

Kirk
 
(quoted from post at 23:54:41 12/05/14) I appreciate all the replies on locating this block. Some were helpful. When I bought this tractor (48 8N) there was oil in the water and water in the oil. I expected the block was bad but the rubber, sheet metal, etc. was very good and for $600 didn't think I could go wrong. I have rebuilt, repair and sold 34 of these wonderful old tractors. I do all my own work. This is a hobby I love. I do not charge any labor only out of pocket expenses. Isn't it a little comforting to know there are 34 of these old machines in use that had been exposed to rust and/or the scrapyard. I don't know about you but this 77 year old fat man love my hobby. I have about 10,000 miles on by shop chair. Play nice fellows.

Well said! Post some pictures when you get her running!
 

With 34 tractors under your belt...[color=red:170a1a8a23]WHERE THE HECK YOU BEEN WITH ONLY 57 POSTS ![/color:170a1a8a23]

You are probably chock full of information.
 
Let me give you a different perspective.

I restored a 1953 Farmall Super H new tires, rebuilt engine, resealed, each part individually sand blasted, painted and reassembled.

I spent about $7000. Why you ask?

I wanted to. It was a challenge.

It was a far cheaper cheaper hobby than sitting in a bar and chasing loose women. Plus I got to keep my wife. If they catch you with the loose women's they take their half of your stuff and the attorneys get the other half. AND they leave.

This is a working tractor that pulls a hay ride wagon, 2-14" #8 plow to turn over the garden, disc and drag pastures and garden.

I would challenge you to find a new tractor with all those capabilities that cheap.

Yes, I could have found a working H/SH far cheaper but then you don't know what the mechanics are or when they'll fail. This is a play tractor for me and I want it to work when I want to play. I'll spend far more money on trucks and equipment that I rely on to make my living.

I know guys that spend 10's of thousands of dollars on compact utility tractors that are no more capable than my SH or 2,8,9n, 600 series fords.

No negatives to this post! Think a couple buddies debating over more than a couple beers.
 

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