post office strikes again

LisaK

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Bought an original 6v work light off ebay...tracking said it was out for delivery yesterday. Well when the post man didn't bring It I drove my happy arse to the post office after work to find out where it was. They had no idea. So I catch the post man today...again no package...said he hasn't seen it. Well isn't that lovely. Its been in my town somewhere since Saturday at 2am. I have filed yet another complain with them this being the 2nd one in 2 months. First one I mailed a generator to a member and they broke it. I had also mailed some rear hub screws to someone else and it took probably close to 3 weeks for them to finally show up and missing one or 2. So either they find my package or they pay me my $108 I paid for it. Atleast when the generator got broken I did get the automatically included $50 insurance money from them fairly fast. I figured id file a claim before contacting the ebay seller cause it isn't their fault.
 

No wonder USPS is going out of business.

Half the packages are untraceable. They supply you with a tracking number but the tracking history stops at "PACKAGE RECEIVED FOR SHIPMENT" where it is after that is anyone's guess until you receive it a 1-2 weeks later.
 
You have to love the new UPS option whereby they hand it off to USPS at the end for delivery. You end up with hand-to-hand tracking right up to the point when USPS gets it and then nothing. Black hole.
 
I only ship "FED-EX". USPS and UPS can do a number on ya. Even though Fed Ex is the USPS contractor, they usually deliver PDQ.

So when I go to the USPS to mail something, I go the extra route to ship FED EX.

John,PA
 
I do all my shipping with the post office. I always over wrap and over package and write in large clear letters.
I have shipped tractor parts all over the us of a and never had one go missing or damaged.
btw: priority mail is the best deal on the planet for shipping.
 
I request FEDEX whenever possible. When buying anything online I avoid (surepost)or (smartpost) especially when it says free shipping.These items are picked up by UPS from the sender or by FEDEX depending which it is. They are then transferred to the local USPS sorting facility where they sit and wait to get bulk shipped.That means they hold it there until they accumulate multiple items going to that zone. Then it gets shipped in a large tub as one package and is they save the shipping costs on multiple items. That's why the tracking location stays the same for 3 days and also the tracking on these items are low priority if any at all.
 
Being in the custom gun grip business, I've shipped hundreds and hundreds of packages. I always ship USPS Priority Mail and insure the packages.

I have never had a package go missing. Here is a copy of the tracking so far. I shipped the package on Friday. As you can see the tracking is quite detailed.

Notice Left (No Authorized Recipient Available) SAN RAFAEL, CA 94901 October 28, 2014 12:42 pm
Out for Delivery SAN RAFAEL, CA 94901 October 28, 2014 8:50 am
Sorting Complete SAN RAFAEL, CA 94901 October 28, 2014 8:40 am
Arrived at Unit SAN RAFAEL, CA 94901 October 28, 2014 3:32 am
Departed USPS Facility PETALUMA, CA 94999 October 27, 2014 9:54 am
Arrived at USPS Facility PETALUMA, CA 94999 October 27, 2014 3:26 am
Arrived at USPS Facility OAKLAND, CA 94615 October 26, 2014 11:00 pm
Departed USPS Facility SAN BERNARDINO, CA 92403 October 25, 2014 2:51 am
Arrived at USPS Origin Facility SAN BERNARDINO, CA 92403 October 24, 2014 10:15 pm
Departed Post Office NUEVO, CA 92567 October 24, 2014 2:56 pm
Acceptance NUEVO, CA 92567 October 24, 2014 11:49 am
 
I shipped some petrified wood, packed what i thought was good, priority mail with extra insurance, package marked fragile. When it got to there it had been smashed. I have filed an insurance claim and will see what happens.
 
Personal EXPERIENCE,

You might have to present a "receipt" for the wood.

A few Years ago. .I made a repro. Chippendale Mirror and shipped via USPS to my daughter in Colorado for Christmas.

I inquired about "insurance" for a value of $500.00. The post office clerk said,"You will have to produce a receipt for the said amount before we will accept it for a claim.

I said "well, it was custom made". She said "that will NOT qualify for insurance".

Moral to the story: The mirror arrived unscaved.

John,PA
 
Here's the last part of the tracking...I
find it funny it says it left the post
office this evening..when my mail comes in
the morning. Wonder where they are sending
it to. The USPS headquarters did start an
investigation so we shall she. I was
supposed to have this last week. Up till
the last few months I've never had an
issue with them.
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They should pay it pretty fast. I was
fortunate to get good pics of the damage
and box to submit for the claim. My post
man said the people who load the trucks
are rough with packages and just plain
don't give a rats a**.
 
(quoted from post at 17:24:44 10/28/14) Caryc, I need some grips. How can I contact u?
Thanks

www.clccustomgrips.com

I only make grips for the Ruger single actions. Since I make every pair of grips by hand myself, I'm kept very busy doing just that.
 
I'm guessing they delivered your package to the wrong house.

My sister bought a mixer off amazon. She was watching the tracking. fedex marked it as delivered. She didn't get it.reported it to amazon later Fedex found it at a empty house two streets over.

I've had good luck with the post office. The tracking has worked good for me as long as the workers scan the packages. For the most part they get scanned at least eight times. Shows when they leave my post office, when they get sorted, when they make it to the buyers post office and when they have been delivered.
 
"Wonder where they are sending it to."

Return to sender.
Person at the delivery point refused an unexpected package! LOL
I hope not, but it could happen.

I have had FedEx leave packages in the neighbor's front yard, in
the rain and mark them as "delivered". Not even the right house.
I've stopped ordering from any place that will only ship FedEx. If
they can't ship via a reliable method they can keep their product.
 
Fedex also has an agreement with USPS called Fedex express. I bought some jewelry for my Wife and Daughter a couple of years ago. One item was shipped Fedex Express,where Fedex shipped it to somewhere in Mississippi[finally],then to USPS in Memphis,then to my house. I ordered on Dec,3rd,got it Dec27th. Needless to say,I was POed!!. I rebuild Antique Yamaha Enduros,and have lots of parts shipped USPS without problems,and at much less money. I also sell some parts to associates[on a site for these bikes],and always use USPS. I have bought 3 complete motors,shipped USPS for $45.00.
 
I would, just to let them know the PO lost it.
You may need them to help with an insurance
claim anyway, since they bought the insurance.
As you said, its not their fault.
I would be clear of that, they'll probably be
more than willing to help if they can.
 
I am into firearms and wanted an old Russian flare gun.
Found one and had it shipped UPS. USPS will not deliver anything related to firearms.
Since I deal with many deliveries I installed the UPS application on my IPhone and therefore had set up text notifications on the movement of this package.

Had it delivered to my Queens New York address which is really a New York City Street full of rowhouses. Each home by law has to have the mailing address posted on the front of each building.

Got home early that night and figured I would sit outside in the front and wait for the package to arrive. I saw the UPS man pull up with a load of packages in his hand walk past me and make various deliveries to different houses. As he delivered his last package I received a text message indicating package delivered.
As he walked past me to get back to his truck I stopped him and told him obviously you can't read labels cause you delivered my package five houses away.
 
(quoted from post at 19:48:29 10/28/14) I would, just to let them know the PO lost it.
You may need them to help with an insurance
claim anyway, since they bought the insurance.
As you said, its not their fault.
I would be clear of that, they'll probably be
more than willing to help if they can.

The shipper and purchaser of the insurance is the only one that can file an insurance claim on a lost package.

The intended receiver has no claim against the post office. Their only claim is against the shipper for a non received package.

It's the same as if the package was not insured. if you never received the package you can file a small claims suit against the seller who shipped the package, not against the post office.
 
a lot depends on who is doing the delivering. our house number is 222. a 1/4 mile away another house has the same number but on a different street. for awhile after our mail carrier retired we had temps. delivering our mail. we were routinely getting mail for the other address. once we got a regular carrier the confusion disappeared.

we are all human and make mistakes although we don't like it when it happens to us.
 
(quoted from post at 07:28:00 10/29/14) a lot depends on who is doing the delivering. our house number is 222. a 1/4 mile away another house has the same number but on a different street. for awhile after our mail carrier retired we had temps. delivering our mail. we were routinely getting mail for the other address. once we got a regular carrier the confusion disappeared.

we are all human and make mistakes although we don't like it when it happens to us.

Sorry but I need to disagree with you on that. I'm a firm believer that if you are getting paid to perform a job then it's your obligation and responsibility to conduct that job the way that it is intended to be done. There is no human factor that should even come into play unless it was stated up front. It is that mail carriers responsibility to verify the name to the house address.

If I go to my doctors for a flu shot I expect just that not a rabbie shot.

I run a weekly payroll for 51,000 hospital employees in NY. If I mis pay any of them last thing they want to hear is "oops, your pay check didn't make it out today. "

Folks used to take pride and responsibility in thier work. That rary if any exists any more. It's a shame.
 
(quoted from post at 06:49:28 10/29/14)
(quoted from post at 07:28:00 10/29/14) a lot depends on who is doing the delivering. our house number is 222. a 1/4 mile away another house has the same number but on a different street. for awhile after our mail carrier retired we had temps. delivering our mail. we were routinely getting mail for the other address. once we got a regular carrier the confusion disappeared.

we are all human and make mistakes although we don't like it when it happens to us.

Sorry but I need to disagree with you on that. I'm a firm believer that if you are getting paid to perform a job then it's your obligation and responsibility to conduct that job the way that it is intended to be done. There is no human factor that should even come into play unless it was stated up front. It is that mail carriers responsibility to verify the name to the house address.

If I go to my doctors for a flu shot I expect just that not a rabbie shot.

I run a weekly payroll for 51,000 hospital employees in NY. If I mis pay any of them last thing they want to hear is "oops, your pay check didn't make it out today. "

Folks used to take pride and responsibility in thier work. That rary if any exists any more. It's a shame.

You and your doctor prolly get paid a lot more than your UPS guy to not make mistakes.... :lol:
 

So if you bring your crank to the guy down the road who makes $8.50 an hour to have the main journals ground down, its OK for him to get them within .025...guess its just a human mistake!
 
2 months ago, same thing happened to me. Ebay tracking said it was delivered to me on Aug 20. Post office said the only thing I could do is file a police report. Yea, right. Good thing it was only $5 item.
 
(quoted from post at 07:20:53 10/29/14)
So if you bring your crank to the guy down the road who makes $8.50 an hour to have the main journals ground down, its OK for him to get them within .025...guess its just a human mistake!

if you use a machine shop that only pays their guy $8.50 id say you got what you deserved. :roll:


FWIW is relation to USPS, i had something very similar happen with an ebay purchase recently. it said out for delivery and never showed up. then a few days later there it was. it somehow got sent to the wrong post office and was a day or two late to me. human mistake and nobody died and nothing was lost.
 
Have to repectfully disagree.I have shipped over 500 e-bay items by USPS.Only one returned item because Postmaster hapened to cover part of address with customs form.As for price,no one can come close to P.O.prices.Several times I dummied up a package & no comparison in price.My wife worked in the shipping dept.for very large company& shipped with UPS.One day UPS driver says "I guess I won't be seeing you anymore".Wifey says,"why".Driver says,"your company signed new contract with FEDEX"."must have been a super deal ,because we were giving them a 40% "kickback on every package".Post Office is making a profit,but is forced to fund pension fund 75 years in advance.Just crooked politicians trying to give the P.O. to their corporate freinds.I hope I get all my stuff sold before that happens.No,I amnot a Postal employee.I was critical of theP.O. too,till I learned a little bit about it
 
I have had very good results with the Postal Service. As for UPS, for a while they refused to come up my lane because they were afraid some drooping branches would scratch their truck. Hogwash, of course. Everyone else was always able to make it, so I guess they are prima donnas.

At other times they would just put my parcels in plastic bags and hang them in the bushes down by the road.

Unfortunately, too many vendors don't give you a choice about how your stuff is shipped. When I have a choice, I always choose the Postal Service.
 
(quoted from post at 09:35:33 10/29/14)
if you use a machine shop that only pays their guy $8.50 id say you got what you deserved. :roll:

I think that no matter how I explain it you keep missing the point.
OK so he makes $25 an hour????
 
The biggest problem here with USPS is they bought out all the workers so they could retire early. Then they put a help wanted ad on the wall of the post office. They train the new guys for two weeks before sending them out on there own. The training is just standing behind the counter waiting on customers.

I had to show one of the new guys how to turn on the scale!he quit after two weeks. His replacement tried to charge me $109 for $5.50 insurance. Even had to tell him what drawer the insurance forms were in and then how to fill them out!
I think when they train the new employee's they need to give them dummy packages. let them figure the postage and fill out the forms, like insurance, customs for International packages and so on. They have someone check their work and see if it's done correctly.
 
in a perfect world you are of course correct. but to compare getting a paycheck on time and a package a day or two late is weak.
 

Not really.
I pay for a service. I expect to get what was agreed on when I paid for that service.

I work for a pay check. I expect to be paid for what we agreed on when I was hired.

Sorry but a package a day or two late may be tolerated once but not twice.
A package that gets delivered somewhere else or never delivered is unacceptable.
 
(quoted from post at 10:46:20 10/29/14)
Not really.
I pay for a service. I expect to get what was agreed on when I paid for that service.

I work for a pay check. I expect to be paid for what we agreed on when I was hired.

Sorry but a package a day or two late may be tolerated once but not twice.
A package that gets delivered somewhere else or never delivered is unacceptable.


everyone makes mistakes, even you mr greywolf.
 
qba,I totally agree with you on that. I never had any issues with the USPS until congress got their mitts on them.Stinkin lobbyists bribing congress with corporate cash.Privatize this,privatize that and stick it to the consumer in the end.Welcome to America!
 
The worker buy out was a result of financial pressures put on by people in congress who have been against the Postal Service for years, both wanting to privatize and to starve out USPS. They have required the pension plan to be prepaid years far in advance, which also causes the need for cutbacks, both in employees and in services, including the closing of many post offices.

I will let you guess which party in congress is behind all this. Hint: the ones who are always in favor of corporate welfare for big corporations.
 
(quoted from post at 07:46:20 10/29/14)
Not really.
I pay for a service. I expect to get what was agreed on when I paid for that service.

I work for a pay check. I expect to be paid for what we agreed on when I was hired.

Sorry but a package a day or two late may be tolerated once but not twice.
A package that gets delivered somewhere else or never delivered is unacceptable.

Hmmm....a human person making a mistake is unacceptable.

[b:61137798e7][color=red:61137798e7]Perhaps you could tell us how to keep human people from making mistakes?[/color:61137798e7][/b:61137798e7]

I think you could make a fortune if you possessed that information. Of course, if you worked for the post office you would never ever make a mistake. Man, we need more super human people like you.
 
(quoted from post at 15:26:20 10/29/14)
(quoted from post at 07:46:20 10/29/14)
Not really.
I pay for a service. I expect to get what was agreed on when I paid for that service.

I work for a pay check. I expect to be paid for what we agreed on when I was hired.

Sorry but a package a day or two late may be tolerated once but not twice.
A package that gets delivered somewhere else or never delivered is unacceptable.

Hmmm....a human person making a mistake is unacceptable.

[b:cabee8c34f][color=red:cabee8c34f]Perhaps you could tell us how to keep human people from making mistakes?[/color:cabee8c34f][/b:cabee8c34f]

I think you could make a fortune if you possessed that information. Of course, if you worked for the post office you would never ever make a mistake. Man, we need more super human people like you.

Very obvious that I must have hit a personal nerve. I never personally attacked you but you made it a point to attack me.
And who knows maybe if I did work for the Post Office I wouldn't make mistakes...like you!

I merely stated how I feel that If I pay for something I should get the service that was agreed upon. I make good on my word and I expect the same. USPS, UPS, FED-X or or other shippers main function is to deliver packages. Why do I have to accept the fact that my packages arrive late 7 out of 10 times or arrive damaged 5 out of 10 times.

Hey if you want to deal with mistakes go right ahead. Mistakes cost money and I work hard for mine. Maybe that is just how you are used to dealing.

Lisa sorry for hijacking the thread. Moving on.
 
(quoted from post at 13:52:19 10/29/14)
(quoted from post at 15:26:20 10/29/14)
(quoted from post at 07:46:20 10/29/14)
Not really.
I pay for a service. I expect to get what was agreed on when I paid for that service.

I work for a pay check. I expect to be paid for what we agreed on when I was hired.

Sorry but a package a day or two late may be tolerated once but not twice.
A package that gets delivered somewhere else or never delivered is unacceptable.

Hmmm....a human person making a mistake is unacceptable.

[b:a3424c8cd3][color=red:a3424c8cd3]Perhaps you could tell us how to keep human people from making mistakes?[/color:a3424c8cd3][/b:a3424c8cd3]

I think you could make a fortune if you possessed that information. Of course, if you worked for the post office you would never ever make a mistake. Man, we need more super human people like you.

Very obvious that I must have hit a personal nerve. I never personally attacked you but you made it a point to attack me.
And who knows maybe if I did work for the Post Office I wouldn't make mistakes...like you!

I merely stated how I feel that If I pay for something I should get the service that was agreed upon. I make good on my word and I expect the same. USPS, UPS, FED-X or or other shippers main function is to deliver packages. Why do I have to accept the fact that my packages arrive late 7 out of 10 times or arrive damaged 5 out of 10 times.

Hey if you want to deal with mistakes go right ahead. Mistakes cost money and I work hard for mine. Maybe that is just how you are used to dealing.

Lisa sorry for hijacking the thread. Moving on.

I'm still waiting for you to tell me how to get people to stop making mistakes. You attacked the post office inferring that those human people have no right to make a mistake by delivering a package to a wrong address. You just can't weasel out of that. Yet you offer no solution to the problem, you just want to whine about it.

Happy whining. :mrgreen:
 
I wouldn't go bashing the elephant about making the post office pay for their retirement system, if they didn't we'd end up paying for it. Don't think it can happen?....ask anyone who held GM paper or common stock, their equity was subordinated to pay off the UAW. Corporate welfare? would you rather have the corporations move offshore and pay NO TAXES? Here is a concept many people can't understand- Corporations don't "pay" taxes, the government takes money from them and then they charge more for the goods and services they produce to get that money back, I don't care what you think if you buy something made, imported, distributed, marketed by or sold by a corporation a portion of what YOU pay pays the taxes for that corporation, if the government increases taxes on corporations YOU pay more. When prices go up usually the demand for the product goes down. What would happen if we put a 50% tax on new automobiles? Fewer cars would be sold, that would mean fewer autoworkers to build them, fewer railroad and truck employees to deliver them, fewer new car salespeople (okay so there is a silver lining in every cloud) to sell them. With the reduced employment (less income tax), the reduced sales (less sales tax), the fewer cars (less tag fees, less gas tax collected, less car parts & service sold) It is possible for the government to get less money by implementing such taxes AND increase unemployment, poverty, reduce wages and lower property values. The profits of a corporation are distributed to the owners (stockholders) of that company who in most cases get to pay taxes on it again. Remember corporations are not people they don't get to vote, people vote, they vote to elect people who will give them all kinds of things like free medical care, indefinite unemployment insurance, a end to global warming (excuse me "climate change" since it's getting colder the global warming model doesn't work, but once you got a good scam going use it!) But the people who vote for this stuff don't want to pay for it so hey another one of the politicians favorite tactics is to tax people who can't vote for you, like corporations and non residents. I find it frustrating that a corporation is evil because they make money, yet the government who might collect more in taxes and fees on a product than the corporation that makes it earns isn't evil. I still can't understand why when businesses get together and collude to set prices for what they pay for raw materials or sell finished goods for illegal, but if a group of people get together and collude to sell their labor for more money or eliminate things they don't want to do from their job description they are saints and I'm supposed to bow down and kiss their hinnies. If you think it's so wonderful when the government owns and control everything please pack you bags and move to Cuba and let us who value it enjoy our freedom here in the USA.

So one quick question why is corporate welfare more desirable than Union Welfare or even plain old welfare? Why is it bad for a nnalert candidate to take money form the Koch Brothers but it's okay for a Democratic candidate to take money from big government unions?

Michigan is a state that was very dependent on the automobile, Al Gore wanted to eliminate or restrict automobiles, Michigan still voted for him to become president.
The United Mine Workers endorses the Democratic candidates who want to eliminate coal so they can worship at the alter of Climate Change. In either instance were the voters voting in their best interests? Only if their plan is to sit on their backsides and collect a government check
 
I'm in north central ND, and our mail comes through the GF PO.

We get great service with few problems, typically faster than UPS or FedEx. Trouble must be in the route from GF to your town, or your PO or carrier!
 
Lisa, from what I see in the photo it I'm guessin' the address was incorrect & it's being returned to sender. That or possibly (gasp) the carrier misread the address. It can happen.
Be interested to see the outcome.
 
I'm right in grand forks...like 10 blocks from the post office. We've had the same mailman for years...I'm not sure what happened... I called again today and it can take up to 5 days for them to investigate/find out where it went or I believe reimburse me for it. I'm home all day with daycare and my mailman always knocks on my door with my packages and we chat for a minut . Time will tell
 
No new tracking updates. Address is
correct so I'm not sure why they said no
such #. Might be next week till we get any
info. I was thinking to myself that it
will eventually show up and be broken.
About how my luck has been this week.
 
Sorry but I need to disagree with you on that. I'm a firm believer that if you are getting paid to perform a job then it's your obligation and responsibility to conduct that job the way that it is intended to be done. There is no human factor that should even come into play unless it was stated up front. It is that mail carriers responsibility to verify the name to the house address.

If I go to my doctors for a flu shot I expect just that not a rabbie shot.

I run a weekly payroll for 51,000 hospital employees in NY. If I mis pay any of them last thing they want to hear is "oops, your pay check didn't make it out today. "
You're comparing apples to oranges. Even a small office will handle thousands upon thousands of pieces of mail & packages per day. Most (but not all) mistakes are usually resolved & rarely are they life threatening.
There's always gonna be new people & subs that aren't as knowledgeable as the seasoned carrier but even those make mistakes once in a while. There's far more variables than you could ever imagine.
 
(quoted from post at 20:10:45 10/29/14) No new tracking updates. Address is
correct so I'm not sure why they said no
such #. Might be next week till we get any
info. I was thinking to myself that it
will eventually show up and be broken.
About how my luck has been this week.
According to that it was in the hands of the carrier & for whatever reason they brought it back undeliverable.
Again, curious to see.
 
(quoted from post at 04:10:45 10/30/14) No new tracking updates. Address is
correct so I'm not sure why they said no
such #. Might be next week till we get any
info. I was thinking to myself that it
will eventually show up and be broken.
About how my luck has been this week.

I shipped some tractor parts (BIG BOX ) USPS 11 days later it showed up in my Mail box (BIG MAIL BOX).... They had no excuse for it other than it was a senior moment...
 
I agree--overall, I have good results with USPS. I
get my neighbors mail once in a while--If some of my
junk mail is going to someone else, I am grateful
that they are discarding it and I don't have to
shred it..
 
Its back in Wisconsin I have sent the
seller another message asking what they
plan to do. I guess if no answer from them
I contact eBay?
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Lisa,I'm not 100% on this,but I was under the impression that E-BAY guaranteed the shipping/delivery end of the transaction with their customer guarantee policy. Yes, I would definitely call them. I have never had an issue that they weren't happy to resolve. Sounds to me like there was some erroneous information on the label.You probably already doubled checked with the sender though.I hope it gets resolved for you as I think there was just an honest mistake somewhere.I can see how it would be frustrating,but e-bay will rectify it.They wanna keep your business by keeping you happy.Good luck!
 
NUTTIN AGAIN YOUR SELLER/BUYER...

Jump on it resolve this issue now... I brought a part off ebay and let this guy slow play me till I could not get ebay to do anything about it... He has the part and my money :twisted:
His ebay user name was PJ8N

Peter Kendt
11436 Kelsey RD
Clyde, NY 14433

I hope he rots in ell :!: BTW I am not the only one he's shafted.
 
The problem is it's not the sellers fault. Ebay
will force the seller to refund the money. it
should be the postal service that refunds the
money.
 

He change his user name are maybe he is rotting in ell... BTW this was in 2003... I have see his name come up hear a few times in the past over the same deal... His user name may have been Peter8N at the time
 
The problem is it's not the sellers fault. Ebay will force the seller to refund the money. it
should be the postal service that refunds the money.
Before we get the gallows built shouldn't we be sure the seller had the address correct? If he had only the zip correct it would have arrived at her PO but still unable to deliver if there were no such street address.
 
Was that you bidding against me? Ahhh well
it happens. I think my husband was going
to have a heart attack about it.
 
True....although I've checked and double
checked my paypal and eBay address are
wrote correct. Unless they hand wrote the
address instead of printing the shipping
label from them. Time will tell
 

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