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Requesting winter oil weights suggestions

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John Schmincke

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H I everyone,
Last winter I used this 2N for the first time to push snow. I discovered the oil in the trans was too thick and required a warm up of about 1/2 hour to get the pump to work. Is there a better weight of oil / brand that would suffice through the winter? Also want suggestions for the engine oil. This is a 47 2N front mount dist., stock. How thin can I go in the trans and engine? I am in Fredericksburg VA so temps can get down there at times.

Thanks in advance,
John
 
(quoted from post at 22:43:34 10/06/14) H I everyone,
Last winter I used this 2N for the first time to push snow. I discovered the oil in the trans was too thick and required a warm up of about 1/2 hour to get the pump to work. Is there a better weight of oil / brand that would suffice through the winter? Also want suggestions for the engine oil. This is a 47 2N front mount dist., stock. How thin can I go in the trans and engine? I am in Fredericksburg VA so temps can get down there at times.

Thanks in advance,
John
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For the transmission and hydraulics use any good quality Univrsal Tractor Transmission Fluid. Your local TSC sells their house brand, Traveller Premium, in 5 gallon pails for about $45.

For the engine use any good quality grade SAE 10W30 engine oil.

TOH
 
CNH now recommends their latest version of 134D in the transmission/hydraulics/differential sump of vintage Ford tractors. Cold weather performance is much better though your nearly 70 year old tractor will be somewhat more prone to leaks.

I use 15W40 diesel spec oil year around in all of my tractors, gasoline or diesel, though it can be a bit heavy for cold weather starting. The engine oil that you choose is dependent upon engine condition, ambient temperature and starting system performance.

Dean
 
I agree with Dean. 15w40 in the engine and 134d spec oil in the trans-hydraulics-rear end. If I had to depend on that tractor to start in 20 degree weather, I would find some way to keep it warm.
 

In all my years of 15W40 being my favorite oil for especially used equipment, every time I went in somewhere to buy some "diesel oil" I'd have to go through the same song and dance about it being fine for gas machines too.

At the time, with some 15W40 oils, that said "diesel" on the can in flashing lights, the API rating would still read SF, CC which covered both gas and diesel.

Hope I don't have to endure a full page tutorial on oil technology to put me in my place because I said this. :D
 
15-40 in the engine and TSC "renew" fluid in the trans/hydraulic year round and i started and plowed with my N when it was 0 to -10 last winter. I always let it warm up for 10 min or so before even attempting to start plowing, plow might be slightly slower at first but no issues
 
i agree with dean as well.


I'm using 15w40 diesel spec oil in just about all of my equipoment here.

a couple are on 10w30 syn S rated oil since i did top end work on them however.

ditto onthe UTF fluids meeting the 134 spec.

ps a mag heater on the oil pan, hyd pump base, a coolant hose heater, and a trickle charger on the bat, all on a timer set to turn on an hour before use would help out alot.
 
I put 134 in my jubilee, tranny, hyd and rear end per CNH recommendations. Well on a hot day in the summer, the tranny oil was coming out the front seal in a steady stream. So I drained tranny and put in 90-140 GL. Stopped leak, no issue in sub zero temps either. Perhaps had I split the tractor and replaced the seal all would have been fine, but I'm lazy. Didn't really want to do all that work when 90-140 gl worked.
 
My 2N plows snow here in Michigan.
I too use 134D UTF in the Hyd/Trans/Rear end sump.
I use TSC Traveller, but Walmart has a house brand too.
TSC is actually cheaper in my area, so worth checking.
15W-40 in the engine. I don't have any heaters on my tractor,
but it is in a shed, so it is not setting out in the wind/weather.
 
I run 15w-40 year round. gets pretty cold here.
I change engine oil in my tractors in the spring.
Gets rid of the weather extremes condensation of winter.
After a summer that 15w-40 has probably thinned down some, so no issues with winter starting.

I always ran mineral oil in my N's rear.(didn't worry about leaks, fix'd em, but the gears told me they weren't happy with the thin UTF stuff)
On a single sump machine, just get that lift off the ground after a few minutes, and drive it around.
With rear/hydraulics/trans sharing oil, it will warm up quick just by driving it. get those tranny gears to sling that cold oil. After a few laps, the lift will work fine.

keep it clean, keep the water out.
contaminated oil-sludge thickens faster/worse than clean oil
 
I run 10W-30 in the engine and the 134 from TSC in the trans. Yes, the lift is slow in the winter at first. One option is mineral oil for the trans and lift but it can be a challenge to find in a 5 gallon pail.
 
Many thanks everyone for your advice. I'll print this and get to work while weather permits. I think I'll do the mag heaters also this winter. Last winter, just engaging the PTO was enough to try to stall the engine everything was so thick.
John
 
(quoted from post at 19:15:34 10/09/14) I run 10W-30 in the engine and the 134 from TSC in the trans. Yes, the lift is slow in the winter at first. One option is mineral oil for the trans and lift but it can be a challenge to find in a 5 gallon pail.
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If you think it is slow with 134 (aka UTF) you really won't like SAE 90 mineral oil. ;-)

TOH
 
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