TIsco TP 240 paint and Rustoleum primer...will it work?

Redoing a set of Tract-O-Lites. Stripped 'em down to shiny metal.
Never used Tisco paint before. Will it sit well over Rustoleum primer?

I heard that the Tremclad and Rustoleum are the same company and I used Tremclad red oxide primer on my rims. I was intending to just do my rims on the cheap to get it all over with but then someone here reminded me that after all the rim repair,
I should do it right.

So then I wondered like you, if Polyurethane Valspar Ford Grey would spray over that primer and it was OK.

So as a partial answer for you, I do know that the Valspar I used WILL spray over Rustoleum Primer.

If your Tisco ISN'T thinned with laquer thinner or equivalent reducer, you should be OK.

Maybe you should get a quart of Valspar and you'll have it for anything else Ford Grey.

T

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I heard that the Tremclad and Rustoleum are the same company and I used Tremclad red oxide primer on my rims. I was intending to just do my rims on the cheap to get it all over with but then someone here reminded me that after all the rim repair,
I should do it right.

So then I wondered like you, if Polyurethane Valspar Ford Grey would spray over that primer and it was OK.

So as a partial answer for you, I do know that the Valspar I used WILL spray over Rustoleum Primer.

If your Tisco ISN'T thinned with laquer thinner or equivalent reducer, you should be OK.

Maybe you should get a quart of Valspar and you'll have it for anything else Ford Grey.

T

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Thanks for the tip. The TP240 is supposed to match the original ford grey pretty close (so I hear) so I was planning on getting a Qt. Never used valspar before.
I always use restoleum primer and thin it 10% with acetone and thrown in some Japan drier as a harder. Hasn't failed me yet. Sands smooth and gives a nice hard base to paint other rustoleum paints over.
By the way the rim looks really good you want to do a few of mine

Yes it will work fine.
Have painted many a part and a bunch of tractors with Rustoleum and Valspar with hardener.
I painted the 641 in the picture 6 years ago and it hasn't been in a garage since.
Paint isn't as shiny as it was but is intact and still looks very good.

I notice that both you and Tall T mention valspar. Is that and the Tisco TP240 one and the same.

I don't know who makes Tisco paint.
Valspar is a huge paint and coatings company that is home based here in Minneapolis. The hometown team.
Though I suppose they could manufacture the stuff anywhere.
Their tractor and implement paint is what I always use. I'm no body man or paint man but I enjoy putting on the color.
I would say Tisco is probably as good as Valspar.
Valspar on Amazon is pretty cheap though, especially if you have Prime and get free shipping.
I just rattle can brown rustoleum primer or the quarts - you can sand that stuff if you wait a day or two.
Then I shoot the paint.
I never buy the reducer. I always use lacquer thinner to thin the paint and clean the gun.
I learned that on these forums - maybe YT paint and body board.
There are folks there that could paint a Duesenberg so just by reading it once in a while, like here, you can learn a little.
Purists might cringe at my paint but it's just a tractor so I don't get too fussy.

Same here not a paint and body guy but like to make it look good. Personally don't care to get into the professional auto paints.

What paint colors do you and Tall T use for the red and ford grey?
I know that the Tisco TP240 has that olive grey color. I have used it in a a rattle can previously.

Greywolf,

Re. Ford Grey
I assumed that whoever last painted my tractor had chosen the correct grey so, gambling on that, what I did was take my hood to the auto parts store where they used a scanner camera on the paint. They sent the scanner over to the big city, where their computer software instantly recognized it as "Ford Grey" so luckily, I had guessed right about the previous paint job.

This is what is on the Valspar can I got:

VALSPAR

852 SS Polyurethane (A)

852-145056 NF

TERRAIN

2013 FORD USA (VA-7290)

As far as I can tell, it looks like a perfect match.
Ignore the front rims as they are some shade of white previously done. I think I have enough Ford grey left over to do my fronts. Here's the best judge of the color match, but ignore the excess filler I trowelled into the old tire cracks that I wire wheeled off later.

Beautiful chassis!

Couple of things:

Greywolf said he uses Japan hardener in PRIMER and i had never heard of hardener in primer. Does that improve the overall durability of the paint job?

Also, you say you just use laquer thinner in your Valspar. I went through a song and dance with the store about which paints, including the Valspar, could be thinned that way and got no definitive answers so I went with the reducer.

Since i used mineral spirit thinned primer, I was afraid to use laquer-thinned paint over it, but you say that it doesn't lift rustoleum primer. (?)

How is Rustoleum primer thinned?

thanks,
Terry

Nice tractor.
I wouldn't have noticed the front rim color.
It's probably the 62 and later Ford Gray.
What's with the extra holes in your centers?
I'm more used to scalloped centers on the 55 and later tractors so I noticed at once they were different.

Rustoleum actually makes many different formulas of primer, so
not easy to say for sure, but most likely it will work.
I've used their "rusty metal primer" under several brands of paint
without issue. Rattle can primer here and there too.
It may be helpful to check what the can says to thin it with.

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OH! It is a later Ford Grey! (?) Oh well! I like it well enough anyway.

If you mean the holes in the rear centers, knowing diddley squat, I've been assuming that they were wheel weight mount holes but the random array has also had me thinking that someone drilled them.

But then again, the holes on close examination while prepping them, seemed factory drilled (like not tangential to the curve). I asked about them a long while back here on the forum but didn't get an answer.

Edit: Did you mean the FRONTS were probably later ford Grey . . . I'm hoping.

t

Tall - Thanks for the info. I will make note of it. Very nice looking tractor. What are the holes in your rear centers. Looks like you were practicing with a new drill.

I always have thinned rustoleum paint and primer with acetone since that is what I read on the back of the can years back. Really haven't read the can again only cause I cant see the #$%^
writing.

I painted my tractor seat, dash panel and tranny shifter cover last year using rustoleum primer and paint while thinning with acetone and adding Japan drier to both. The finish is actually very tough.

(quoted from post at 20:17:02 10/04/14) Tall - Thanks for the info. I will make note of it. Very nice looking tractor. What are the holes in your rear centers. Looks like you were practicing with a new drill.


Thanks, I lucked out.
but about the disk holes . . .
I know! and the damned holes have a crazy pattern.
but I'm an old beatnik . . . actually a Hippie, so I got stuck with
crazy wheels man!

Certainly the coolest wheels I've ever had. Before that I'd have to go way back to my 60 TR3 when I was 18.

"I always have thinned rustoleum paint and primer with acetone since that is what I read on the back of the can years back. Really haven't read the can again only cause I cant see the #$%^
writing."

Cool!
Then I'll mark that down about Tremclad primer & acetone, since the companies are the same . . . I think Tremclad is the Canadian version of Rustoleum.

"I painted my tractor seat, dash panel and tranny shifter cover last year using rustoleum primer and paint while thinning with acetone and adding Japan drier to both. The finish is actually very tough.

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Great!
I did my steering spokes and nut with Valspar black just brushed on and I'm happy to see how tough it is even without hardener! there is something about . . . we can't get that Japan hardener up here . . . auto paint companies (like Valspar) have had to do clever runarounds to keep us supplied.
I'd better zip my lip.

. . . more of the globalists plying their industry takedown tactics --
more sickness disease and death on the way to their throne
the new Superstate, the North american Union"
Trilateral Commission denoted three Superstates . .
but there are more with the African Union . . . .
on the way to shakin' the economy so bad, that the foolish people welcome the opportunity to turn to the NWO boys
who hold out a system as always within the pretense of care
a one world system of solution to the crisis they created
playing like puppet masters
the reaction of the people to the effects of what they have done
the ignorant accept the solution to save themselves.

Engineered crisis/Reaction/Solution

Solzenhitsen said:
"If we had known what our fate was to be,
when they came to get us
me and my neighbors would have been hiding in the living room with the lights off. . . with shovels, picks, whatever we could get our hands on."

It all sounds so outrageous and too diabolical
because they made sure we were never told it in school
like "Operation Paperclip" for example.
Beautiful elderly Charlotte Isserbyt (deliberatedumbingdown.com)and the Congressional Investigator, Norman Dodd courageously and caringly testify about the calculated subversion of our educations. If you know anyone in teaching, turn them on to Charlotte. She was at the highest levels of Educational Department during the Reagan administration. Left and right hardly matter any more and they love it that we think it still does. Is a clever diversion and creates beautiful (to them) division as well.

Divide and . . . what was that?

Another example is that Amsoil told me over the phone that canada isn't going to allow aerosol cans of MP from the US (because they care of course) so I asked her how many cases were in the warehouse and she said 1500. I bought two 12 packs but only have 6 unopened cans left. Monday: order more (lifetime supply)
I'm telling ya, this stuff is fantastic. I spray my lower link balls often and yet I don't have any typical oily buildup, just a light dry film that never oxidizes and is an incredible rust penetrant and so the film is "rust preventative"too! Straight rocket science. 8)

Speaking of your Shifter Cover, I took some of the gold nail polish (laquer) from when I did my front emblem, and painted the shift numbers gold. Love it! Without the best vision or the right glasses happening, those gold numbers really make it easy to get familiar with the pattern and the distances.

Could even help in some strange emergency . . . "NO, put it in R quick and then go call 911 !!"

This was my daughters idea of personalizing Samantha Jean.

Awww. . . that's beautiful man!

She must be a kindred Spirit of mine.

Reminds me of my great cedar slab desk right here. One of the boys across the street __ who thought I was cool for an old guy cause they could play my gretch drums to a good loud stereo playing through 2 JBL's 15" with Celestion horns in each cabinet -- whew!
carved his initials in by cedar table top. He was sure happy to be gettin' to do it . . .

like your daughter.
very nice!

Nice new start button. I'm being real gentle with my neutral safety switch. The odd time I get no action out of it, just a gentle touch sets it right. I haven't actually seen one up close and personal (even a photo) but I'm just imagining that lightly tapping it rather than whacking it by trowing the stick back and forth . .. will make it last longer.

Im a softy when it comes to the kids. They can do no wrong as long as they did it with the right intentions. Someday, when they consider me the old timer, crap which ain't too far off. I want to be the grandpa that they want to hangout with.

Believe it or not, that switch is original. I hate painting over everything on a machine. I like the natural look of metal. One of my most used tool is a bench top wire wheel along with a can of high heat clear lacquer spray. I've wire wheeled my carbs governor distributors metal linkages starter and genny brackets and even the fuel line and sediment bowl fixture and gave them a shot of clear lacquer to stop the rust and still show the metal finish.
I was gonna do the same to a set of tract-o-lites that I am installing but since one of the Lights had a few dings in it I had to putty them up a bit so I have no choice but to paint them. I had the metal down to a mirror finish.

I prefer satin. Keeps it more natural looking.

Thought you might say that.

Show your daughter my shifter plate

I just finished this about a half hour ago.
Didn't shine worth a darn though.
It's only 50° here today. Too cold.
Used Valspar, hardener and lacquer thinner.
Rattle can primer.

I got to admit, blue is my favorite color. That looks mighty nice.
I see plenty of shine.

Love that shade of blue.
My mother always said blue was my color.

About the Valspar . . . exactly which formulation are you using;
is it one of the Valspar Equipment colors?

My rims are polyurethane, but it seemed to me there were other Valspar options and this was their recommendation.

Thanks,
T

It is their standard Tractor and Implement Ford Blue.