Should I or shouldn't I . . . Attachment ID?

Tall T

Well-known Member
A lady friend who I haven't seen for ages saw me at the Fall fair and congratulated me on the tractor she saw in my yard. turns out she has an 8N and said she had a couple of attachments that she'll never use . . . so here they are.

Turns out she has three such attachments.
The moldboard pieces were tangled up with what appears to be a tow-behind cultivator, so I put the plow pieces separate for photos. I have no idea of what these two plow pieces used to connect to but I'm sure most of you will know at a glance.


Sorry I didn't clip away the plant life but she was in a hurry.

The other pieces (no photos) are two sections of what I think are drag tooth harrows.

Thanks,
TT

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Judging by the weight of those two plow shares, I think you're wrong. One almost landed on my foot but I jumped in time. :D

I'm pretty sure no old "garden tractor" could have pulled these once they were dug in.
 

Tractorguy2

You're right . . .I just happen to have a photo of the "Garden Tractor" that powered those attachments! Took the photo 2 hours ago.

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(quoted from post at 20:02:45 09/17/14) Judging by the weight of those two plow shares, I think you're wrong. One almost landed on my foot but I jumped in time. :D

I'm pretty sure no old "garden tractor" could have pulled these once they were dug in.


T: Garden tractors of the 60's and 70's were rated for anything from 8" to 12" one bottom plow with as little as 6HP under the hood. The 12 HP Wheel Horse GT I had was rated for a 10" plow and they made a 14, 16, 18, 20 and 25 HP model for the same year. The D series were huge compared to the average at the time. Average GT weighed in around 700 LBS dry. The D's were about 1200 dry. They would indeed pull them in the ground. As small as the framework looks I'd bet garden tractor stuff.

Rick
 
Once again I sit corrected. :)

She says they came with the 8N but never used them; but who knows what previous owners did with them or what they used them with.

Thanks,
T :)
 
drag looks handy.
I'd leave the plow. Even if you could figure a way to mount it, your NAA would destroy it.

Like Rick said.
I messed with late 50's early 60's WheelHorse
RJ's and Suburbans for a time. (google em)
Tractor didn't come past your knees, but was very powerful.
full line of implements.
My mid 60's much larger WheelHorses, with dual range transmissions, Ag tires (sometimes duals), and heavily weighted,
would give that pictured 8N a run for its money pulling a drag type implement.
 
(quoted from post at 03:42:52 09/18/14) drag looks handy.
I'd leave the plow. Even if you could figure a way to mount it, your NAA would destroy it.

Like Rick said.
I messed with late 50's early 60's WheelHorse
RJ's and Suburbans for a time. (google em)
Tractor didn't come past your knees, but was very powerful.
full line of implements.
My mid 60's much larger WheelHorses, with dual range transmissions, Ag tires (sometimes duals), and heavily weighted,
would give that pictured 8N a run for its money pulling a drag type implement.

I had 60's and 70's Wheel Horses for years. Still have the D200. The 12 HP C120 with loaded ag tires would pull a 10" plow just fine. The 6 HP 1965 655 did good with an 8" bottom plow. The D with loaded ag tires and 100 pounds of wheel weights is about unstoppable!

Would be interesting to know who made the plows T pictured. I'd take em and see what I could do with them. Maybe make a 2 bottom that would work behind an N.

Rick
 
She might have pulled them with the Ford. The Ford
is not what they originally were made for.

That is an interesting Ford 8n. it has 2n front
wheels. Is it a 47? Think I have seen three 8n's
with 2n wheels.
 
Would be interesting to know who made the plows T pictured. I'd take em and see what I could do with them. Maybe make a 2 bottom that would work behind an N.

Rick,
That was sort of my initial thought but I mistakenly thought that they were both at one time already bolted to an N-sized frame. I'd have a hard time configuring just how to make a 3-point frame for them and the placement of each.

Thanks,
Terry
 
NNP,

Ahhh . . . so it is a "drag"!

I thought it was a cultivator of sorts but couldn't see how those spring tynes would ever dig in like curved and rigid, spring-loaded cultivator tynes with angled sweeps on the tips.

The tynes are similar to the ones on my landscape rake but better spring steel I imagine.

Is it just a kind of clean-up, trail grooming or early landscape attachment?

Thanks,
Terry
 
TractorGuy,

I forgot the year but will get back to you.
Bette will be interested to know she has 2N wheels.

She has a caretaker there at her old property where the tractor is, but lives elsewhere on the island. When the caretaker talked to me about the spark plugs and told me he added STP to the oil, I felt sorry for the old 8N. The older the are the more conscientious TLC they need but they sometimes get rough treatment like beaters on the way out and whatever weaknesses they had get compounded.

Thanks,
Terry

IT IS A 1949
 
(quoted from post at 09:53:02 09/18/14) NNP,

Ahhh . . . so it is a "drag"!

I thought it was a cultivator of sorts but couldn't see how those spring tynes would ever dig in like curved and rigid, spring-loaded cultivator tynes with angled sweeps on the tips.

The tynes are similar to the ones on my landscape rake but better spring steel I imagine.

Is it just a kind of clean-up, trail grooming or early landscape attachment?

Thanks,
Terry

Well, just where ur from slang really. We call em all 'drags' around here.
I use a 3-point cultivator in my garden but drag ones work too.
My old ones like that one, I drag on my trails (and a spike tooth one with a piece of chainlink fence attached) to smooth em out and beat up the grass before it gets going.
Hey, the tractors around here without 3-points have to earn their keep too!
 
(quoted from post at 01:53:02 09/19/14) NNP,

Ahhh . . . so it is a "drag"!

I thought it was a cultivator of sorts but couldn't see how those spring tynes would ever dig in like curved and rigid, spring-loaded cultivator tynes with angled sweeps on the tips.

The tynes are similar to the ones on my landscape rake but better spring steel I imagine.

Is it just a kind of clean-up, trail grooming or early landscape attachment?

Thanks,


Terry

We called them spring tooths, they really dig in pretty good on plowed ground and even on solid sod. I got a four foot wide one from a friend and used it to dig up some ground so I could plant grass seed. They were quite common around here!
 
R Geiger wrote:
"We called them spring tooths, they really dig in pretty good on plowed ground and even on solid sod. I got a four foot wide one from a friend and used it to dig up some ground so I could plant grass seed. They were quite common around here!"

Interesting . . .
I can see how they could dig in because the tips of the tynes seem to be at a more aggressive angle to the ground than the tynes on a landscape rake which seem to all come down at right angles to the ground.

Could this be accurately called a Spring Tooth Harrow?

She also has and will part with, two sections of those diamond hole drag tooth grids -- like one of those expanding wooden child's gates.

Next question is, what should I offer her for the lot?
Scrap price for the plow bottoms? Until I pull it out of the weeds I don't know what repairs are necessary to the spring tooth. One or more of the spring teeth wasn't mounted on the rig so maybe the mounting point or points is broken.

Thanks,
Terry
 
(quoted from post at 09:41:30 09/18/14) Would be interesting to know who made the plows T pictured. I'd take em and see what I could do with them. Maybe make a 2 bottom that would work behind an N.

Rick,
That was sort of my initial thought but I mistakenly thought that they were both at one time already bolted to an N-sized frame. I'd have a hard time configuring just how to make a 3-point frame for them and the placement of each.

Thanks,
Terry

Terry: just get someone on here to take pictures of their Dearborn plow and post the measurements. then it should be easy to fab something up. I'll do it for once they figure out what they (VA) did to my knee and I'm off the crutches.



Rick
 
Hi Rick,

You wrote:
" just get someone on here to take pictures of their Dearborn plow and post the measurements. then it should be easy to fab something up. I'll do it for you once they figure out what they (VA) did to my knee and I'm off the crutches."
__________________________

Thanks! I'll give that a whirl.
Sorry about your knee worries . . . I've heard some vet horror stories about VA negligence, on a call in talk show. Don't do too much too soon.

I had a hip replaced last november cause I fell and broke the little shaft clean through that goes to the ball.

Then this spring, just after I drained the calcium chloride out of my Jube tubes, I stupidly stood my landscape rake up on it's tynes and tried to walk it over to the trees, so i could put the crane on the tractor to load the tires onto a truck. Well . . . had sandals on cause my toes go to sleep when my feet are too warm and I tripped and crashed down backwards with the rake. Damned thing could have killed me if I had gotten nailed by the raised center part.

I put two 1 1/2" cracks in my right pelvic area so for two weeks I was creeping around with a makeshift walker and then with a cane. It made moving those big 13 X 28 rims around to restore them, an intimidating task. Didn't know what I had done until I went for another routine xray of my new hip. By then the cracks were totally healed and the surgeon said I was a very fast healer.

I tended to only half agree with him because ever since my hip job I've been pouring on the bone supplements. Magnesium, Calcium, vitamin K, Boron, Phosphorus. when the body is in repair mode, we have to give it a heavy dose of the building blocks it normally uses for maintenance, for that particular repair . . . not just the pitiful "minimum daily requirement".

I'm just guessing here as to the nature of your bad knee but
if your knee troubles are bone or even cartilage deficiency related then ask one of the nutritionists at a health food store or good vitamin place for the right supplemental formula.

That's my theory anyhoo.
:)

Terry
 
(quoted from post at 22:51:53 09/18/14) Hi Rick,

You wrote:
" just get someone on here to take pictures of their Dearborn plow and post the measurements. then it should be easy to fab something up. I'll do it for you once they figure out what they (VA) did to my knee and I'm off the crutches."
__________________________

Thanks! I'll give that a whirl.
Sorry about your knee worries . . . I've heard some vet horror stories about VA negligence, on a call in talk show. Don't do too much too soon.

I had a hip replaced last november cause I fell and broke the little shaft clean through that goes to the ball.

Then this spring, just after I drained the calcium chloride out of my Jube tubes, I stupidly stood my landscape rake up on it's tynes and tried to walk it over to the trees, so i could put the crane on the tractor to load the tires onto a truck. Well . . . had sandals on cause my toes go to sleep when my feet are too warm and I tripped and crashed down backwards with the rake. Damned thing could have killed me if I had gotten nailed by the raised center part.

I put two 1 1/2" cracks in my right pelvic area so for two weeks I was creeping around with a makeshift walker and then with a cane. It made moving those big 13 X 28 rims around to restore them, an intimidating task. Didn't know what I had done until I went for another routine xray of my new hip. By then the cracks were totally healed and the surgeon said I was a very fast healer.

I tended to only half agree with him because ever since my hip job I've been pouring on the bone supplements. Magnesium, Calcium, vitamin K, Boron, Phosphorus. when the body is in repair mode, we have to give it a heavy dose of the building blocks it normally uses for maintenance, for that particular repair . . . not just the pitiful "minimum daily requirement".

I'm just guessing here as to the nature of your bad knee but
if your knee troubles are bone or even cartilage deficiency related then ask one of the nutritionists at a health food store or good vitamin place for the right supplemental formula.

That's my theory anyhoo.
:)

Terry

Terry I'm taking some stuff to try to help but my knees are just about wore out. All that darn running in the Army. Anyway they injected some stuff that's supposed to lube my knees. One shot each knee for 3 weeks. I may have had an allergic reaction to the stuff they put in. 1st one knee got even more painful than it had been and very swollen. Now that knee is going down the other one is swelling and starting to hurt worse. Doesn't help that according to what I found on the web after the shots I was supposed to be off my feet for 2 days. Consequently I was combining wheat the next day.

Rick
 
Terry I'm taking some stuff to try to help but my knees are just about wore out. All that darn running in the Army. Anyway they injected some stuff that's supposed to lube my knees. One shot each knee for 3 weeks. I may have had an allergic reaction to the stuff they put in. 1st one knee got even more painful than it had been and very swollen. Now that knee is going down the other one is swelling and starting to hurt worse. Doesn't help that according to what I found on the web after the shots I was supposed to be off my feet for 2 days. Consequently I was combining wheat the next day.

Rick[/quote]

Rick:
Sounds like cortisone which is a steroid.
There are two schools of thought on cortisone.

Here's a quick study on the down side of cortisone:
http://www.jonburras.com/pdfs/CORTISONE.pdf

The body is a miraculous healing machine all on its own but we have grown up with a conditioning to the medical industry's "cures" for everything, and so we have by default, a diminishing faith in the ability of the body to heal itself.

What cortisone, an anti inflammatory, does it to mask the painful symptoms you feel but it does absolutely nothing for your knee condition and as you are experiencing, it does have serious.side effects. Your knee joints need rebuilding and that you can only do with nutrition, or perish the thought, knee joint replacement.

The most amazing anti-inflammatory that does incredible good for the body as a whole is Vitamin C. Even doctors, while I was getting my hip done agreed that vitamin C was a natural anti-inflammatory and a natural laxative.

Something amazing about vitamin C is that it will tell you when the body has more than it needs for the task at hand; i.e., reducing inflammation in your knees. Your bowel movements will get slightly looser. Then what you do, because vitamin C has told you how much is needed, you cut back 1,000 mg.

Try this and I guarantee you positive results. Buy only powdered/crystal vitamin C from a health food store and start with 4,000 mg. per day. You CANNOT take too much and as I said, it will tell you your needed amount.

Another thing is to figure out what the body needs to produce CARTELEGE. Cartelege is like teflon and is the lubrication within bone joints. It is like that almost see thru grissle you see in a carved turkey. Without an adequate supply between the moving bones in a joint, you get scoring like a bearing starving for oil -- bone on bone.

Hope this helps you.

Cheers,
Terry
 
(quoted from post at 19:35:00 09/19/14) Terry I'm taking some stuff to try to help but my knees are just about wore out. All that darn running in the Army. Anyway they injected some stuff that's supposed to lube my knees. One shot each knee for 3 weeks. I may have had an allergic reaction to the stuff they put in. 1st one knee got even more painful than it had been and very swollen. Now that knee is going down the other one is swelling and starting to hurt worse. Doesn't help that according to what I found on the web after the shots I was supposed to be off my feet for 2 days. Consequently I was combining wheat the next day.

Rick

Rick:
Sounds like cortisone which is a steroid.
There are two schools of thought on cortisone.

Here's a quick study on the down side of cortisone:
http://www.jonburras.com/pdfs/CORTISONE.pdf

The body is a miraculous healing machine all on its own but we have grown up with a conditioning to the medical industry's "cures" for everything, and so we have by default, a diminishing faith in the ability of the body to heal itself.

What cortisone, an anti inflammatory, does it to mask the painful symptoms you feel but it does absolutely nothing for your knee condition and as you are experiencing, it does have serious.side effects. Your knee joints need rebuilding and that you can only do with nutrition, or perish the thought, knee joint replacement.

The most amazing anti-inflammatory that does incredible good for the body as a whole is Vitamin C. Even doctors, while I was getting my hip done agreed that vitamin C was a natural anti-inflammatory and a natural laxative.

Something amazing about vitamin C is that it will tell you when the body has more than it needs for the task at hand; i.e., reducing inflammation in your knees. Your bowel movements will get slightly looser. Then what you do, because vitamin C has told you how much is needed, you cut back 1,000 mg.

Try this and I guarantee you positive results. Buy only powdered/crystal vitamin C from a health food store and start with 4,000 mg. per day. You CANNOT take too much and as I said, it will tell you your needed amount.

Another thing is to figure out what the body needs to produce CARTELEGE. Cartelege is like teflon and is the lubrication within bone joints. It is like that almost see thru grissle you see in a carved turkey. Without an adequate supply between the moving bones in a joint, you get scoring like a bearing starving for oil -- bone on bone.

Hope this helps you.

Cheers,
Terry[/quote]ttp://synviscone.com/[/url]

Seems I had an allergic reaction to it so I guess I'll find out next week what's up with that.

Rick
 

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