Not my idea of a safe attachment

Not N related but does tie in with small tractor safety. This looks like an accident for sale.

It is being advertised in my local craigslist ads:
http://knoxville.craigslist.org/grq/4670678250.html

The Front End Platform is a newly patented implement with a large deck and back that attaches to the front end loader on a tractor, fork lift, or similar vehicle, switching with the bucket as desired. It has approximately the same floor space and cargo capacity as a pickup truck bed, and it has been tested to hold 2,000 pounds. For complete information, visit http://www.ovisloaderattachments.com. For questions or further information, call 618-503-0191.
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I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

There is no way a tractor that small can safely hold any kind of off-balance weight at that height. Even the empty platform weighs enough to create tip over conditions over soft ground or low tire pressures.

Good way to lay your tractor over on its side and maybe also damage whatever (or whoever) it falls on.
 
(quoted from post at 10:56:29 09/16/14) Attachments very similar to that have been available for a long time. If common sense is used they are perfectly safe.
Mike


Hate to say it but it isn't OSHA compliant. No safety rail. And 2000 pounds? That's real good considering that a lot of small loaders are not rated for 2000 pounds. And is that load rating of the platform or is that the load rating minus the weight of the platform? So you can take something like that and give to someone with experience with loaders and equipment and be somewhat safe. But in the hands of a novice? For the owner it's an accident waiting for time/place to happen. For the builder/seller, hold on to your hat and be prepared to lawyer up.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 18:11:50 09/16/14) I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

There is no way a tractor that small can safely hold any kind of off-balance weight at that height. Even the empty platform weighs enough to create tip over conditions over soft ground or low tire pressures.

Good way to lay your tractor over on its side and maybe also damage whatever (or whoever) it falls on.

The principle is safe enough and I have used similar with bot a tractor loader and a forklift. When fully raised even an empty loader bucket poses a potential tip over hazard. Obviously the operator has to know the limits of his machine and the operating conditions.

TOH

PS> As regards OSHA they permit but take a very dim view of using man cages on "front end loaders, forklifts, and "similar machines". They limit the width of the work platform to 10" outboard of the wheel base of the machine. If you want to be fully compliant you need a certification from the lifting machine manufacturer that the machine was designed to allow the use of work platforms AND the specific platform in use is certified to work with the machine hoisting it. Good luck on getting that.
 
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(quoted from post at 18:11:50 09/16/14) I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

There is no way a tractor that small can safely hold any kind of off-balance weight at that height. Even the empty platform weighs enough to create tip over conditions over soft ground or low tire pressures.

Good way to lay your tractor over on its side and maybe also damage whatever (or whoever) it falls on.

The principle is safe enough and I have used similar with bot a tractor loader and a forklift. When fully raised even an empty loader bucket poses a potential tip over hazard. Obviously the operator has to know the limits of his machine and the operating conditions.

TOH

PS> As regards OSHA they permit but take a very dim view of using man cages on "front end loaders, forklifts, and "similar machines". They limit the width of the work platform to 10" outboard of the wheel base of the machine. If you want to be fully compliant you need a certification from the lifting machine manufacturer that the machine was designed to allow the use of work platforms AND the specific platform in use is certified to work with the machine hoisting it. Good luck on getting that.

I think they have to have a rail system, tie into the lifting implement so as not to become detached and have tie off points for safety harnesses.

Rick
 
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(quoted from post at 16:16:00 09/16/14)
(quoted from post at 18:11:50 09/16/14) I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

There is no way a tractor that small can safely hold any kind of off-balance weight at that height. Even the empty platform weighs enough to create tip over conditions over soft ground or low tire pressures.

Good way to lay your tractor over on its side and maybe also damage whatever (or whoever) it falls on.

The principle is safe enough and I have used similar with bot a tractor loader and a forklift. When fully raised even an empty loader bucket poses a potential tip over hazard. Obviously the operator has to know the limits of his machine and the operating conditions.

TOH

PS> As regards OSHA they permit but take a very dim view of using man cages on "front end loaders, forklifts, and "similar machines". They limit the width of the work platform to 10" outboard of the wheel base of the machine. If you want to be fully compliant you need a certification from the lifting machine manufacturer that the machine was designed to allow the use of work platforms AND the specific platform in use is certified to work with the machine hoisting it. Good luck on getting that.

I think they have to have a rail system, tie into the lifting implement so as not to become detached and have tie off points for safety harnesses.

Rick

And a host of other requirements.

If you go to the product page for the wooden unit you will see that it is tied to the equipment and has an optional rail system.

It is being promoted for a large variety of uses other than as a man lift. They note that the platform is sturdy enough to support a 2000# load but is not rated for lifting that load. They appear to be selling on a substantial scale and I would imagine they have purchased product liability insurance.

Despite the fact that it is next to impossible for a fork lift man cage to be fully OSHA compliant there are many thousands of them being sold and used. At 90" wide this one from Koke probably exceeds the OSHA wheelbase limits when used on most small and medium size trucks.....

TOH

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The welding shop has one close to that on his fork lift. He uses it when he is welding on the top of grain trailers and combines. Works good for him.

They are also used for picking apples.
 

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