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I FOUND OUT THERE IS NO SLEEVES IN MY ENGINE.NEVER HAD ANY.I NEED TO KNOW WHAT I NEED TO DO TO HONE THE CYLINDERS FOR NEW RINGS OR PISTONS OR TO MIC THEM.
(quoted from post at 10:27:05 08/27/14) I have a 52 that did not have sleeves either nor harden valve seats I had it sleeved and harden seats installed... I believe it had the engine replace with a industrial engine... I still have it will have to look if it has a serial number cuzz I don't remember...
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(quoted from post at 08:56:17 08/27/14) I TRUST YOU DEAN,BUT HOW DO YOU MAKE SOMETHING SMALLER WITHOUT ADDING TO IT.WHAT IS THE BORE OF THE CYLINDER WITH THE .040-.090 SLEEVE IN THE CYLINDER AND WHAT WILL BE THE SIZE OF THE PISTON.
OVERSIZE DOES THIS MEAN LARGER.
(quoted from post at 21:26:45 08/27/14) Well I don't know about answering your question - I was not aware there was an industrial engine without sleeves.
(quoted from post at 11:25:18 08/28/14) That is interesting. I was at an auction this spring and there was a 8N with a mag on it. I was looking at it when some other guys came up. One indicated it was an industrial engine that was swapped in. If they were swapping them into tractors they must have been available as surplus/cheap at one time.
Do you know what application the engines were used for? Perhaps that would provide some insight. For example; maybe some type of limited use throw away military application...one time order...? Or, could that engine have been for the Ford jeep....?
(quoted from post at 14:32:49 08/28/14) THANK YOU FOR THE INFO.SO FORD DID HAVE TRACTORS MADE WITH SLEEVE LESS ENGINE OR SOMEONE PUT ONE IN THIS 8N TRACTOR.I WONDER WAY.I CONTACTED A COMPANY HOWARD ENTERPRIZES. THEY SAID THEY CAN GET ME PISTONS AND RINGS IF I NEED THEM.I NEED TO HONE AND CUT THE RIDGE TO GIVE THEM MEASUREMENTS TO SEE IF I CAN USE MY OLD PISTONS AND NEW RINGS OR IF I NEED OVERSIZE. THANK YOU AGAIN.
(quoted from post at 20:31:31 08/28/14)
It's interesting that Ford never made any of those side distributor industrial 8N blocks without sleeves. By the bore measurements provided, the original poster has one. Hobo definitely had one. I've had 2 of them pass through here. We must all be too stupid to know they don't exist.
It seems I missed the post where he said he measured the block bore at 3.185If the pistons in your L-head are not 3.1875 the engine has been modified from stock - likely by removing the factory sleeves and running oversize pistons in the sleeveless block.
(quoted from post at 10:17:11 08/29/14) I JUST MIC ALL 4 pistons AND THEY ARE AS FOLLOW
#1--3.180.5
#2--3.187.5
#3--3.180
#4--3.185
they all were measured at the rod connecter.it was done by a ditial caliper.
what can you tell me now.
(quoted from post at 19:32:17 08/31/14)
Yes, I would be interested in those pistons if you can find them. I run my inventory story on the FISH model (first in still here) so I know how hard it can be to find something you know you have.
(quoted from post at 15:20:02 08/26/14) I FOUND OUT THERE IS NO SLEEVES IN MY ENGINE.NEVER HAD ANY.I NEED TO KNOW WHAT I NEED TO DO TO HONE THE CYLINDERS FOR NEW RINGS OR PISTONS OR TO MIC THEM.
(quoted from post at 20:39:19 09/01/14)
Yes, they would need to be at least .080" over to work in an engine with a .040" sleeve delete. I am curious what ring pack and deck height etc. they run in that time frame.
I am aware of various manufacturers who make new pistons for the flat head V-8, however Sealed Power was not on my list. They are made for 3.750" and 4.00" strokes and bore size up to 3.375". Mercurys had a 4.00" stroke as standard in later years, I don't recall if Ford ever offered the longer stroke. That was before my time.
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