Jubilee hydraulic accessory valve?

Beanmedic

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Did some of the Ford made hydraulic accessory valves bolt up to the top cover on the Jubilee or does it take something more creative? I have a valve like that on the 861 I am working on and will power a hydraulic top link cylinder with it. Kind of like the clean mount of a direct bolt on.
 

Hey UD. Was hoping you would weigh in. So this one...which is listed for a 600, 800, would not fit the NAA?


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That's a real old one. I have only seen those on a Hundred Series but I know the valve itself was also used on the NAAs with a different plate.
Looking it over I'm not so sure.
Here are a couple of photos. One of a standard remote for a Hundred/Thousand.
Second photo is of the mount on the top cover on an NAA.
What makes me wonder is the three bolt holes - both in your second photo and my second photo.
The Hundreds all had 4 bolts.
I really am not at all familiar with the NAAs.
Maybe someone here can help.

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You've probably already seen this long ago, so I don't know if this is helpful, but at 18:29 minutes into the 1953 Jubilee Promo video, the underside of the valve plate shows briefly.

Slide the progress bar button to precisely 18:28, start vid and you get a perfect shot of the underside before his hand obscures it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8PS03-k50w
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see this question a lot.
Only NAA hydraulic stuff for NAA's (mostly)
Took some pictures to hopefully help

NAA only, accessory cover and valve
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Underside of both
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On my NAA
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on my 600, looks to be the same basic valve with a different base
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sorry, nothing I have pictured is for sale....
While tough to find for sale, they are out there and must have been popular. 3 of my NAA's and my 640 all had them when I bought them. And 2 of my NAA's cost less for the whole tractor than I see these valves going for on ebay.
 
(quoted from post at 07:21:41 08/05/14) Real good, informative post NNP.
But what worries me is to hear you've been stealing
NAAs again.

LOL
I know you like working with basket cases too.
Most of the tractors I buy would have normal buyers
running away and having nightmares.......
 
Thanks for the advise and pics. That makes all the difference in the world. The one I posted the picture of clearly is not for an NAA.

Guess I better keep my itchy fingers on the keyboard to pick one up when it shows itself! I already have the cylinder, so I'm part way there.
 
have an accessory valve no longer needed,more neat
and trim than those pictured,valve does not leak.
from an naa jubilee.if interested please respond by
e-mail
 
I guess I should mention that the valve I have shown
is more like a diverter valve. In other words with
the valve engaged your 3pt arm won't work and your
3pt control quadrant would be used to power what
ever you have the valve powered to like a
snowplow,ect.

Kirk
 
Kirk, that's interesting. Didn't know they made that in a version with a handle. I thought about the diverter and can go that way if necessary. But would rather have a control valve. Can see that the valve would be handy with a scoop or box scrape.
 
(quoted from post at 08:26:32 08/06/14) any possibility one of these can be fitting to an N?

No. For an N-series you need to be more creative. Here is one solution:

[u:f3a561bfc5]N-series Top Cover Modification[/u:f3a561bfc5]

After making the modification mount and connect An open center control valve to the new tap. Alternatively you can skip the top cover modification and add an engine driven external pump which works even better.

TOH

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(quoted from post at 23:32:56 08/05/14) have an accessory valve no longer needed,more neat
and trim than those pictured,valve does not leak.
from an naa jubilee.if interested please respond by
e-mail

Leonard, I just noticed you are new. Welcome to the forum!

Your profile does not provide any contact info and it is not enabled for email or private message. That's perfectly fine and many of these fine folks do the same. But I can't contact you except through this forum message.

I'll be glad to contact you if you provide me a means to do so. Or you can contact me. I previously posted my info above.

Thanks!
 
(quoted from post at 16:57:07 08/04/14)
Hey UD. Was hoping you would weigh in. So this one...which is listed for a 600, 800, would not fit the NAA?


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Does anyone know if you can get just the handel to the remote? I just bought a 840 powermaster and it has a remote on it however the handel is missing. I could make on i am sure but i didnt know if anyone sold just the handle assembly.
 

I keep look'N at those pix what would keep the belt from walking off the drive pulleys... Any future ware and it will toss the belt... :?:

For it to work with out a provision to keep the belt from walking means you have all your ducks in a row but what happens when ware and tear set in...
 
(quoted from post at 21:15:14 09/09/15)
I keep look'N at those pix what would keep the belt from walking off the drive pulleys... Any future ware and it will toss the belt... :?:

For it to work with out a provision to keep the belt from walking means you have all your ducks in a row but what happens when ware and tear set in...

For a while I was using a QD bushing on the pump pulley, no flange, and one flange on the drive pulley. No problems with the belt walking.

Boring the pump pully for the QD bushing was a PITA so I stopped using the bushings and now have a flange on the pump pulley as well.

TOH

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(reply to post at 18:25:51 09/10/15)

Cool, in most applications I run into they run one flange on the outer part of a pulley (crank) and one on the inner of another (cam) it works. If its a DOHC are single V engine one will have the flange on the inside and the other on the outside...

A walking belt can be a PITA to get corrected...
 
(quoted from post at 10:54:23 09/10/15)
(reply to post at 18:25:51 09/10/15)

Cool, in most applications I run into they run one flange on the outer part of a pulley (crank) and one on the inner of another (cam) it works. If its a DOHC are single V engine one will have the flange on the inside and the other on the outside...

A walking belt can be a PITA to get corrected...

In my arrangementall three pulleys are mounted flush with the face of the supporting structures which are effectively a stationary guide rail. One outer flange and three inner ones ;-)

TOH
 
(quoted from post at 10:58:27 09/10/15)
(quoted from post at 10:54:23 09/10/15)
(reply to post at 18:25:51 09/10/15)

Cool, in most applications I run into they run one flange on the outer part of a pulley (crank) and one on the inner of another (cam) it works. If its a DOHC are single V engine one will have the flange on the inside and the other on the outside...

A walking belt can be a PITA to get corrected...

In my arrangementall three pulleys are mounted flush with the face of the supporting structures which are effectively a stationary guide rail. One outer flange and three inner ones ;-)

TOH

Have you guys seen this design? No flanges required. I use this stuff all the time for applications where flanges would be in the way.

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Transfer belts, where pulley flanges would scratch the product:

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Or open ended for high loads and accuracy.


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(quoted from post at 21:32:59 09/10/15)

Have you guys seen this design? No flanges required. I use this stuff all the time for applications where flanges would be in the way.

Yes I have seen it - Helical Offset Tooth (HOT) belt drives. Never investigated price or availability since I have good sources and prices for the Gates PowerGrip GT2 belts and sprockets I have been using. A big factor for me is I have a supplier for bulk lengths of GT2 pulley stock that I use to slab and custom machine my own pulleys. If you have price and supply info for the HOT drives you would like to share feel free to drop me a line ;-)

TOH
 
I get OEM pricing but I'll look it up on Monday and send you some sample prices to give you a feel for cost.
 

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