super six loader

waldo11

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Hello all. I am absolutely ecstatic that I am an 8N owner finally. Have always wanted one and now ...
So the fine machine I have previously had a Minneapolis Moline Super Six trip loader on it. The previous owner is a nice guy and gave me all the info he had but said "I didn't want to mess with it" regarding the way the loader was plumbed off the right side of the frame. So the loader (apparently) ran off of the three point hydraulics and the top bolt above the dipstick with a fitting to the hydraulics.
I am sure there are a few of you who know all this and are just waiting for me to get to the issue.
The issue is that a live hydraulic loader is now installed (pump off front of crankshaft) and the three point doesn't work because oil spews out of the old fitting.
SO, do I pull the fitting out and replace it with a proper bolt? What do I do with the old knob on the right front of the seat that was used to direct/redirect fluid to the old loader?
I would like to remove the whole works and put this loader on another 8N I have acquired and sell the whole package as a working unit.
So if anybody has info or a link to a manual I would appreciate it. I will be on here more and thanks to all of you who have kept the N knowledge going.
 
(quoted from post at 18:37:29 07/28/14) Hello all. I am absolutely ecstatic that I am an 8N owner finally. Have always wanted one and now ...
So the fine machine I have previously had a Minneapolis Moline Super Six trip loader on it. The previous owner is a nice guy and gave me all the info he had but said "I didn't want to mess with it" regarding the way the loader was plumbed off the right side of the frame. So the loader (apparently) ran off of the three point hydraulics and the top bolt above the dipstick with a fitting to the hydraulics.
I am sure there are a few of you who know all this and are just waiting for me to get to the issue.
The issue is that a live hydraulic loader is now installed (pump off front of crankshaft) and the three point doesn't work because oil spews out of the old fitting.
SO, do I pull the fitting out and replace it with a proper bolt? What do I do with the old knob on the right front of the seat that was used to direct/redirect fluid to the old loader?
I would like to remove the whole works and put this loader on another 8N I have acquired and sell the whole package as a working unit.
So if anybody has info or a link to a manual I would appreciate it. I will be on here more and thanks to all of you who have kept the N knowledge going.

To enable the 3pt turn the knob to OFF and/or plug the outlet.

If you want to permanently remove the loader plumbing we need to know more. Sounds like it may have an internal diverter valve installed in the 3pt lift circuit. A picture of the right side of the tractor showing the hydraulic connection(s?) would be a good place to start.

TOH
 
Thanks for the quick reply. I would like to remove the switch to allow the super six to go on the other tractor. I will take the dipstick plate off and see what it looks like in there. I was hoping to find a diagram as to how this is "supposed to be" hooked up but I will just be careful and look around in there. I am certainly not the smartest guy but I think I am not the dumbest. Then again would I know if I was? Ah, too much to ponder. Will take pics as to what I see in there. Thanks again.
 
(quoted from post at 21:24:15 07/28/14) Thanks for the quick reply. I would like to remove the switch to allow the super six to go on the other tractor. I will take the dipstick plate off and see what it looks like in there. I was hoping to find a diagram as to how this is "supposed to be" hooked up but I will just be careful and look around in there. I am certainly not the smartest guy but I think I am not the dumbest. Then again would I know if I was? Ah, too much to ponder. Will take pics as to what I see in there. Thanks again.


I researched Super Six loaders (made by the Super Six Manufacturing Company of Minneapolis) and found some historical data but no reference material. The loaders were aftermarket impemnts made in the 40's through 50's for use on many different makes of tractors. Case, Deere, Ferguson, Massey, etc were all mentioned but interestingly I found no mention of Ford.

Your description of what you have in front of you leaves a lot of unknowns:
  • [*:9ca3cd0f2e]Did you have to chain the lift arms down to make the loader work or just turn the selector knob?[*:9ca3cd0f2e]Where is the knob located?[*:9ca3cd0f2e]Does the loader have it's own control valve or does it operate using the 3pt control lever?[*:9ca3cd0f2e]How many hydraulic connections between the tractor and the loader[/list:eek::9ca3cd0f2e]The way these trip bucket loaders were most commonly installed on the N-series was by chaining the lift arms down and using the test port on the base of the internal pump to provide the hydraulic pressure. The 3pt lever was used to raise and lower the loader. and no additional connections or valves were needed. The fact that you have a connection on the top bolt of the inspection cover suggests something else was being done. Possibly a diverter setup similar to his one.

    TOH

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