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Re: new finish mower: pto shaft too long

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Bob

07-07-2014 21:51:59
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"Yep need to cut both pieces and the easy way is with a chop saw. BTDT many times over the years"

Many versions of modern shielded PTO drivelines do NOT lend themselves to being cut so easily because the outer tube is ROUND and has a short square, rectangular or splined "sleeve" welded at it's end that mated with the other half of the driveshaft.

The "sleeve" may also have a bearing groove for a nylon ring that acts as a bearing for the free-rotating driveline shield.


If these HAVE to be cut, the tube has to be cut off where it is welded to the yoke, then be shortened on that end.

BT,DT. It's nice to have a big lathe, sometimes!

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old

07-08-2014 09:01:39
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 Re: new finish mower: pto shaft too long in reply to Bob, 07-07-2014 21:51:59  
On that type I grind the weld off then shorten the pipe part and weld it back together also BTDT many times



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ericlb

07-08-2014 05:50:00
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 Re: new finish mower: pto shaft too long in reply to Bob, 07-07-2014 21:51:59  
only way to cut this type of shaft is to have a shop that builds driveshafts for trucks ect do it for you, one can cut it and reweld the end back on, but you better be a real good welder, chicken poop welding wont cut it here



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Money Pit

07-08-2014 02:32:28
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 Re: new finish mower: pto shaft too long in reply to Bob, 07-07-2014 21:51:59  
thanks for the input; mine isn't like that. both the inner and outer portions flop around looses in the shield. i'll take a closer look before proceeding though.

could i get by without the orc? probably. mowed several times without it already so i know how much i get pushed. but i'm kind of picky about being able to stop when and where i want.

also i like the idea of being able to get the mower up to speed before beginning forward motion. any way to do that without a orc?

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Ultradog MN

07-08-2014 05:43:25
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 Re: new finish mower: pto shaft too long in reply to Money Pit, 07-08-2014 02:32:28  
"also i like the idea of being able to get the mower up to speed before beginning forward motion. any way to do that without a orc?"

I'm not sure what you mean. ORC or not there is no way to do that without live or independent PTO.



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Money Pit

07-08-2014 06:32:52
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 Re: new finish mower: pto shaft too long in reply to Ultradog MN, 07-08-2014 05:43:25  
i'll try to describe; i do this with my 8n / bush hog quite often.

tranny in neutral pto engaged clutch released. engage clutch and pto spins bringing mower up to speed. push in clutch and orc does its thing letting the hog freewheel. engage tranny in gear and let clutch out and start mowing.

maybe part of my situation is the design of the finish mower. no gearbox; the pto drives a large pulley which i would think adds to the inertia i need to dissipate when pressing hte clutch in. have lot more moving mass than just 3 mower blades. (woods rm306 mower)

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R Geiger

07-08-2014 06:49:46
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 Re: new finish mower: pto shaft too long in reply to Money Pit, 07-08-2014 06:32:52  
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I do the same on with my mower, works good to get the blades turning before moving forward!



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soundguy

07-08-2014 16:32:45
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 Re: new finish mower: pto shaft too long in reply to R Geiger, 07-08-2014 06:49:46  
and on my 950 as well.

great mower. just wish i had a new front pedistal for it. :)



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