Tiller Hydraulic 3 Pt

Heard people saying you can't run a PTO tiller behind an 'N' because
it runs to fast and with a 'Step Down' it slows the PTO down Too.
Haven't heard anyone say anything about using a Hydraulic Tiller.
Could this be used on an 8N with a Combo and run the Hydraulics
off the loader pump?
4 Tiller Hydraulic 3 Pt

That looks like it was made from a walk behind tiller. Could you do one like that and maybe leave the gas motor on it? Then you wouldn't need the hydraulic. I'm thinking maybe mounting two side by side. Either each with a motor or one common motor. I've all ready got one tiller frame like that and a 8hp honda motor with a reduction gear that I'm not using. That should run two, you think?

I guess a step down tranny to drop some speed. and find an engine rpm and pump combo to let you run slow enough and yet still have enough hp ato run the pump and a good gpm pump.. and yeah.. you could probably put something together.

me? i'd get disc...

It might be 4' wide, but the tines sure aren't! Even if it was 4', wouldn't cover wheel tracks. Go discin'!

I run a 5' woods tiller with mine, I have a Sherman trans in mine and in low 1st at 3/4 throttle it does just fine

I emailed the guy,
ME, "Are you saying that will till a 4' path? or that the deck is 4'?
What will happen if a rock locks it up? With that chain drive I would be afraid it would strip out the tiller gears."
HIM, "Doesn't sound like the right fit for you. Not sure if you are asking legitimate questions or not. This is not a $1,200 tiller."
Does my question not sound legitimate? I was some what interested in it. But I guess it's not a right FIT for me. How is he going to sell it with that attitude. And listing it as some thing it's not. Isn't a Tiller measured by how wide the path it cuts is?

Let it go FD.
Can't say what his deal is but
you didn't want it anyway.
With no harm meant to anyone, I don't understand people's infatuation with tillers.
Maybe if you have the dough to buy a modern utility tractor and have enough left over to buy the tiller.
But they aren't That much more effective at preparing an adequate (keyword: adequate) seed bed than a plow, disc and spike tooth harrow.
And I hear they do make hard pan faster than does a plow.
Plus if you have any roots or especially rocks I think you would quickly wreck one.
In the years that I've been on this board there must have been a hundred schemes to use a tiller on an N, Jube or Hundred. None of which I have ever seen come to fruition.
For the price you'd pay for all the hydraulic apparatus to run something like that, or a Howard tranny or whatever it takes, you'd be better off buying a newer tractor with the correct gearing, etc.
I think the most interesting idea yet for running a tiller on an N was one fellow's plan to use two Ns. Remove the front axle on one and hook it to the 3 point on the other.
Then crank up the rpms on the rear tractor to run the tiller and run the front tractor in Sherman low to pull it.
Probably would work just fine but at what cost?

Can you run a tiller with
the PTO on a 1949 8n?

I've let him go. But not the idea. I would like to put two such tillers together. Are you saying you don't think that will work no matter how they are powered? I've been here 12 years. I don't read every post and sometimes it's been months before I read any post. So any post where someone tried to run a Tiller under some other power than the PTO I must had missed it.

Most say No. But like harleyguy some say you can. I think it would
depend on the type of soil you have. Sandy loan I think maybe you
can get away with it. But I my self have never tried to use one. Ever
thing I know about 'N's I learned here. Or at least most ever thing.

I am going to buy a 8 n tomorrow and I am wondering if I can use my 5' tiller with it.

You have the high / low range transmission right?

Yes, I do. If you want to know more about running a tiller with an
'N' look in the archives or try to contact someone like harleyguy
that's doing it. Most will say you need a Howard or an Everet
transmission.Those don't come cheap when/if you can find them.

DWRogers, welcome to the forum and good luck with the new 8N!

As said, there is a lot of info in the archives but here is a quick
summary of what I've read. This is off the top of my head, so I
may miss some. BTW, I have not tried to run a tiller with mine.

The ground speed of the N series is what people are saying is
too high to run a tiller. Even in first it just doesn't let the tiller
dig in and do its job, specially in un-worked or hard soil types.

Enter the auxiliary transmissions. There are many types that people
may call "Hi-Lo" setups. The most common is the Sherman step-up
transmission which gives you the normal N speeds plus a faster
range. Not what you want for a tiller. PTO speed is increased too.

Then there is a Sherman step-down, which gives you the normal
range plus a slower ground speed range but also slows the PTO.
There's a Sherman combo that gives you all three ranges, PTO speed
is affected as with any auxiliary that goes in front of the trans.

Others, like the Howard, go behind the original transmission so
they can slow the ground speed and not affect the PTO speed.

John Smith has an entire section on the many types of auxiliary
transmission. It's much easier to find and look through!
Here's a LINK.

If you already had the loader pump and didn't have to buy one
you might be able to make it work. I would definitely want some
sort of slip clutch in it. Or at the very least a shear pin.

I like the idea of two hooked together with two engines.
The engines would add some weight and not be as under
powered as one engine trying to run both tillers.

If I had all that stuff laying around I'd probably try it.
I use a plow, disk, harrow(drag) and cultivator for mine.