Plow Questions

Tim23

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I've been searching for a plow for months, and I think this is about what I'm looking for. The problem is that I really don't know. I've never used a plow before and I'm not sure really what to look for. I would like to plant about an acre of sweet corn this year. Since I usually just mow the field off anyways I figure why not. I'm not trying to make a fortune, I would be happy if I broke even or a little better on the seed fertilizer gas... I have a late model (side mount) 8n with one almost new rear tire and the other is ok, they're not loaded. Tractor is in good running shape otherwise. I'm not really sure about the soil. Its not clay, and we have a lot of sand stone so I'm gonna say its probably on the sandy side, and it holds water more than I would like. Plow is on CL asking $350 and about 3hrs drive for me. Says its a Dearborn 14". Questions; This is too far for me to drive my truck, will cost too much gas, do you think I can fit enough of it in the trunk of a 04 Neon to get it home? :D Neon is work car. Is this the right plow for me? I know I could probably go a little bigger if I loaded the tires but do you think it is too small? Price? Any other questions I'm not thinking of or don't know to ask? Should I just scrap the whole plant corn idea and continue to mow? Would like to hear what everyone thinks.
 
You didn't say how much land you plan to work but if it were me, with your sandy soil, I would look for a 2-14 and be done in half the time.

Plow appears complete and it's a later model so you'll be able to find replacement wear parts. Price seems a little high for my area but there may be some dickering room built into the ad. Adding $100 for transportation sharpens the focus.

Not sure of your implement inventory but if you break the land, you'll also need a disk to level it.
 
Only you can decide if it's worth it. Seat time to me is therapy. Last summer I was paid to run a tractor and gang mower for a golf course and I loved it.
I can't address the quality of the plow, but around here they are a little less like $275.00.
I wish you the best of luck trying to stuff that plow in a Neon. I would assume he would want to load it with that boom pole in the background or a front-end loader. They are heavy and don't like to cooperate. Take the truck. I also think you may need to load your tires, but other more knowledgeable folks here will guide you on that as well. If it were me, I would get it and enjoy plowing. Gerard
 
Contact Mary Boroff,St.Marys,OH. She has plows. Get a 2 bottom. That is where I got mine. Tell her "BAREFOOT" sent you. Dont have her # but she has ads. here under impliments.
 
Single bottom plows are easier to set up than a 2 bottom if you are not familiar with plows and you could probably pull that one without loading tires. An acre of land would plow fairly quick even with a single bottom plow. Try to get him to lower the price and take the truck to avoid a wasted trip with the neon.

Mark
 
Though it is my usual tactic to try and beat a seller down a little I would still pay asking price for that plow.
Single bottoms are harder to find but for breaking sod in any kind of soil a single is a better match for an N.
I could not pull two 14s in our stony, rooty soil here in MN. Even with new rubber, strong engine and wheel weights. So I bought a 1-16" Ferguson plow and I was a plowin' fool with it.
It plowed nice and deep and as mhb@ufe says was easier to set up than a double.
It will weigh about 200 lbs so you might be able to get it into the Neon though not without some scratched paint. You'll need a plan to get it out though.
 
That's a nice plow and worth what he is asking that does not mean I would pay that for it cuzz I don't need it... It would be nice to own 8) Try and beat him down on the price before you make the drive :wink:
 
Only you can decide if 3 hrs is too far. Do you like to drive? Need to get outa town for a short time? Is the car up to the trip? Does the car have a trailer hitch where you can beg, borrow, or steal a trailer? Got a buddy with a small P/U?

Even if you didn't sell any corn, you can always can or freeze it for nice yummy home grown corn during the long cold winter months.

If I could afford it I would go for it.

My .02
Norm
 
You have a tractor and an acre of land and you're not already planting something?? :) I say get the plow and get that tractor to work doing something that may make you some money but can definitely help to put some fresh food on your table. I can't wait till my taters are ready to dig and look forward to getting some other fresh vegetable seed in the ground very soon!!
 
nice plow
sized right for your unloaded N.
I have a 2x14 that I pull with NAA's or bigger loaded tractors, and they get a workout in my dirt.

price seems high, but it's not for that plow.
You get what you pay for, and dearborn-Ford branded stuff is good stuff.
I'd of course try to get it for less, but I would be going home with it...........
Lots of 2 bottoms at the auctions here, good ones cost $.
I haven't seen an undamaged dearborn single bottom at an auction in years.
If I did, I would own it, just because.

dunno about getting it in a trunk. Plows are heavier than they look, and awkward.

ps mowing is boring, working the dirt is fun. plant something.
 
Looks like a decent plow and should be about right for your plans but you cannot haul it in a Neon.

Dean
 
From what can be seen in the photo, it looks like a nice complete unit, it has a tailwheel, coulter and the share appears to be decent, you can see the tip of it. It almost looks like one of those older style, with that long point, not sure what you call those. Given that and compared to a new single bottom plow which will cost you $150-$200 more, but it may not have a coulter, a tail, gauge or furrow wheel, (depending on what people call those). The new one will be shear bolt protected, I believe the one in the photo is a rigid beam, nothing to trip, not protected from immovable objects when encountered. Thats the difference, + the age, the latter which is nothing. In that case, plowing sod, previously worked soil or areas clear of large rocks, roots or other similar things, it will work fine. If you have any of those in your ground, reduce your speed, often times it will stop the tractor, you lose traction. Also be cognizant of what you are running, an N with no front loader, weight up front etc. no rollover protection structure or seatbelt. Not an implement and tractor combination to try in soils that you will hook up with roots and rocks, though hard to figure with an implement on, that the front end can come up and it goes over backward, that would be a concern to me and I"d stay with clean ground. I have run an AO harry ferguson in places with some roots and stumps, rigid, non trip, it stopped the tractor, but I was going slow, low throttle. Also an 850 ford, ballast in the tires, and front end loader. Just some safety thoughts

The price is fair on that plow, I"d bring the truck, you may see something else, it gives you more room, sure you"ll spend a little in fuel, but its not cost prohibitive for an implement you may not otherwise find, pass on it, and you may have buyers remorse when it comes time to plant.

Single bottom is a nice implement to have, besides it being easier to set/adjust, they work nice, and are great for any larger garden. They make a great ditching tool, I ran a furrow from a wet area, where water comes up out of the ground, and literally in one pass to where the furrow ended, the water followed me out, no hand work, raise it up and go. Also for shallow burial of say a temp water line, electric or something.


I have a 110 Ford single bottom and it performs very well, I also have a 101 2 Ford 2 bottom, the single is really nice for breaking sod, I put a new rock share and shin on it, cleaned and lubed the coulter bearing, it also came with a gauge wheel, its for tractors without draft control, took it off and just set my lever, but it does work well if you need it. Coulter is nice for slicing the sod and any light trash on top, if you have an over grown area with weeds and such, mow, then plow, even after its dried and tanned up, you may accumulate trash just up over the moldboard, trash guard may help, or don"t mow first.

There are times my 850 ford, will struggle in deep heavy top soil that is root bound sod, a single bottom is all it can handle, but it easily recovers, just raise the lever a tad, then set back to where it was, (manual draft control LOL !) It seems when working in these conditions the gauge wheel, and sometimes even the coulter are best left off the plow. Other times not. Root bound sod, is much harder to deal with than previously worked soils, that"s where the 2 bottom 101 shines for me.

The best thing about this plow, is that it seems to align to my tractor almost perfectly, center of draft is established, and it rolls that sod completely over, meaning the results are what you want, and you know it when running the disc over it. My 101, I have yet to master, might just need moldboard extensions, so I do use the single more. You can drive up the furrow side rear wheel on your tractor, onto a 8" block, then level the plow front/back using the top link, side to side using the level box, and a small level set on the beam, then go, maybe a slight adjustment in the actual furrow, but not much, its that easy. (see photo) My 101 is more complicated for some reason, not much, but a little to get similar results when plowing, thats why I like the single so much, I can revert to it, the results are more important to get right and the 110 delivers on that every time, just takes longer.

I don"t think you will regret owning this one in the photo.

It will need to be scoured, (rust cleaned off), if it was used here, the soils would likely clean that off in a short distance, but you can get some sticking, overall, won"t take long to clean up, but if you have fine or soils that will stick or won"t scour it, you will have to do that by hand, wire wheel, flap disk, (don"t take a grinder wheel to it, use eye protection at all times), clean it up, eventually you will get it, then run it, it will polish up, and the soil will pass over it smoothly, a rusty one can pull harder in some soils, and load up until its scoured. When done plowing, clean it off, blow out the gaps with compressed air, (wear eye protection), scrap, brush it clean, then paint it with rustoleum, make sure its 60 degrees, dry etc, or you can smear a quality grease over it, though that can wash, the paint stays good a long time, my 101 has not been used in 2 years, outside, not a spec of rust in that white paint, whereas late last summer, as soon as I was done plowing my food plots, dew was present, I coated the 110 with grease, its showing a few small rust spots, which will come right off, I like the paint. TSC also sells a plow coat in a spray can I believe, I prefer rustoleum or a decent spray paint. You can see in the photo of the plow with a new share and shin, the moldboard is still white, it was painted in late 2011, so almost 2 years in the weather, and mind you, being late that year, it would be normally cold, can"t paint outside on metal, we just had a warm spell, and it did turn cold soon after, paint stuck though, polished right up immediately once in the soil.

Few shots of the 110 in use and or results. The first is plowing with the dead furrow at the bottom of slope, having to roll sod uphill, and you can see it will sink in, plow very deep if you want, it flopped over a lot of dirt on the last furrow, but you may not have any need to do that, no point in turning up subsoils. If I do that here, I will have clay on top, but this one will sink right in with a new share on, till it stops the tractor LOL ! So you draft control, tail wheel, or a gauge wheel can be important if you want to maintain a certain depth. I can do it by hand with the lever, the plow for the most part pulls so easily. In this garden patch, I am on a bit of a slope and the photos show the results with the single bottom, still turns the sod over completely even up a slight hill with no mold board extension, really does a nice job under less than desirable conditions.

My 110 is a 16", I put the rock share on it, seems to a little thicker, heavier etc. and it will do quite a bit, per the last photos, I have more than an acre done, maybe close to 2 with all the plots, and with all that, the share showed minimal wear so far. If that does take the later general purpose wear parts, Ford or Oliver, you should be able to get replacement parts, if that share is a type that a blacksmith could work on, take care of it when it needs to be done. It would be interesting to see what that model, (and it has a tag) calls for, parts are usually stamped with part numbers, but may or may not be visible until removed, or could be rusted obscuring the numbers. My 110 takes an oliver share, my 101 takes a ford share.

Don"t mind me, lengthy, I just like old implements, plows and such, have enjoyed the use of mine for both gardening and some nice food plots, one photo shows the results, a nice green forage patch.
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What area are you in? Small implements like these seem to average a lot more around here, eastern NY. I lucked out and paid $125 for that nice 110, with coulter and gauge wheel, a very nice older gentleman who posted an ad, and was clearing out a fair amount of his things, I got a ford subsoiler, N.O.S. for $100, looks unused, and where he was, it was fine sand anyway. He was extremely fair on price, cripes he showed me a JD LI with hydraulics, he wanted $800 for it, engine stuck, I wished I had the money at the time. Just a nice friendly person who like we all will, was selling off things, likely due to age and with very reasonable prices, he could have tripled the prices and most would have sold. I saw another 110 identical to mine, they wanted $500 for it, last fall. Knowing what it was, I'd have made an offer on it, not sure if I would have paid what was asked, having one already, but still, they are hard to find and not offered for sale very often, still worth the price or close, if for resale. New ones are that much without the extras. Mine did need a shin and share, but otherwise in nice shape. My 101 was $250, but needed shins, shares and landsides, I'm likely into it say $400 at minimum, I did ok on that one, a new one is well over $800 and will not be trip back, just shear bolt protected, no coulters. These kinds of implements used to be cheap, but most are asking a lot more now, though you can find deals, it may take years, none of these were found overnight, that is for sure, it took perusing the ads a few times daily for a very long time. A friend found a ferguson mounted cultivator for $100, think it was a 7' or 8', very nice find, but he's in a rural area, could have easily tripled his money on it, complete, shoes or shovels, these were straight with points, not triangle only worn on one side, could switch them over. He even had the center piece to guide it, so it was complete, nice find. Deals are harder to find and the scrappers have reduced the stocks of these old implements as well, driving the price up.

http://www.thefind.com/garden/info-bottom-plow http://www.external_link.com/en/store/countylinereg%3B-1-bottom-plow#desc-tab
 
It seems like you have a lot more questions than just the plow. I raised vegetables for many years and one thing I learned was that people in my area that had the right equipment could save me countless hours of my time. I could spend ten days to two weeks plowing my ground or have a neighbor do it in one day while I was busy doing something else. I would suggest this approach for the first year until you decide that this is something that you really want to do.
 
" I've never used a plow before and I'm not sure really what to look for. I would like to plant about an acre of sweet corn this year. "

Yes it's a good plow as others have said. And, all of the wear parts are easily available.

So lets think this out.....

You get the plow & learn how to use it. Fine.

What next?

You'll need to put down lime & fertilizer. How do you plan to do that?

You will need to disc up the ground after you plow it.

Got a disc?

What about seeding? Got a seeder? Or do you plan to drop it by hand?

Got a cultivator to keep it weeded? Or 5 kids to do it? :)

Sweet corn takes a lot of nitrogen. So it needs to be side dressed. Ever tossed ammonium nitrate by hand over an acre?

Ear worms love sweet corn. That means a spray schedule of at least once a week when it starts to silk.

And...finally.....got a market for 1 acre of sweet corn all at the same time?

My suggestion: get a neighbor to prep the ground for you and plant not more than 1/4 acre of sweet corn. You can work that by hand w/o killing yourself.
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Tim, if it's your time to learn, go for it. Don't expect to much the first year. That plow is as good as you will find but it's a little over priced. But you might look for a long time to find a better deal. I have an 8N and have been looking 3 years for a 2x14 dearborne plow and haven't found one at a price and distance I can live with. Last year I built a 1 bottom Oliver 16 inch. Works really good but I would rather have 2x14. By the way, I plowed 15 acres last year and will plow at least 25 this year. My Amish friends figure 40 acres with 1 bottom and they don't have a tractor. If this is your year learn, enjoy it. Next year will be even better. Lots of luck, Dave8N
 
Tim, if you don't have a disc you can look for an old harrow section or two. That will work just as good. You can plant by hand and use a tiller to cultivate. You will still have some weeds to pull in the rows. If you try to hold your expenses down, you might make a little money.
 
It's probably a 16". It looks to be in pretty good shape. If I was at my home computer I could give you the website that has the operators manual and parts list for it. It won't fit in the Neon but I believe I would get it if I had a need for it.
 
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I do about a 1/10 are a little more a year its all I want to handle are eat and give away... My Grandpa did 10 acres are so a year he was a better man than me... Corn is fun to grow :D Next thing he needs is a Farmall 100.130,140 they are cultivating machines...
 
Billy NY,
can you post a photo of the top linkage for the Ford Subsoiler? I picked one up too with no link, inexpensive. should fold if I'm not mistaken. Thanks a bunch.
 
Be glad too, I also owe someone on tool talk a photo of a May Brothers tire machine, as I think of this. Only one problem, got a new phone around christmas time and for some reason, I still can't download photos from it, to my pc, it has a decent camera too. I went to where I bought it yesterday, we went into the settings and changed one that should hopefully do it, so I will try to see what happens. I believe these are shear bolt protected, rain ought to let off at some point, at least I'll get a photo of it, see what I can do to post it, I'm sure its possible directly from the smartphone as well, I've never tried that, perfect day for fooling with it, as we certainly are not having any decent weather today LOL !
 
I don't know chit about it I had the same issue. The gal at Verizon said try loading it with a OPLM file... My phone had down loaded that file are sent me to were I could load it from windows. I open my pix with a OPML file and since then it down loads its self when I plug it in... :?

If you remember when you plugged yer phone into yer PC the first time look for a file in documents it downloaded . It should have a option for you to use the web service to find the correct program....
 
Ok, hopefully this is of help, don't mind the other clutter in the background, I had put this implement against the foundation wall under the eave of my house, its the clutter corner, in an area that I dug out for additional space, adjacent to the garage, my mortar mixer was in front of the subsoiler, was raining still, was hard to get a better angle, but hopefully suffices, if its just the pair of straps on top, those could be easily fabricated and made to look the same without too much trouble, or I would think. These are well built, not sure who made them, the letters were still on the main shank, and so is the paint right to the wear part on the end, which looks to have not been used.
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That is one piece, I thought that there was a two piece which buckled in the middle. No shear pin? I will check in later, out to chores. Thanks!!!
 
Ok, so I think I'm gonna have to pass on this one. I decided since I was thinking of driving so far I would expand my search in other directions. I found several other plows, some for a lot less $$, but none that just jumped out and said buy me. I really like the one in my original post, but I think I can do better if I can find one closer to home and maybe get lucky and find someone who has a disc also. If nothing else I'm just gonna use my cultivator to chew up a little dirt and smooth it out with my tiller and plant a smaller crop for this year and think about it again next year. As far as getting someone else to do it, I could but that would defeat the whole purpose. I'm only wanting to plant something cause I enjoy riding around on the tractor and growing things. Thanks everyone for the advice, I'm gonna read back over it a few more times and keep looking till I find something that I'm willing to let the money go on.
 
I will have to take closer look, the main shank is one piece, so it would have to break at the top link brace, given the angle. Bolts are smaller, now if'n I'm no fool, I'm not sure who is, LOL, totally forgot, the previous owner gave me the one sheet manual on it, going to go find and look at it right now... LOL ! So I scanned it, hopefully will post legible, says nothing about shear bolt protection!
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