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651 Workmaster revisited

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03-05-2014 17:36:47

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Sorry I did not finish my post below and thank everyone for their input. I have 1958 Ford Workmaster with 651 on the hood and above the serial number. My father purchased this new in 1958, when I was 16 yers old and I was the first to drive it. I drove it off the truck. Dad sold it to me in 1986. It is still all original, except for tires. I have owned most of the other models mentioned. Someone asked what is my question. My question is how many people have actually seen a true 651. Models such as 640, 641, 840, 841, 860, 861, are very common. Other than my tractor I have only seen one other 651. I think they are a bit of an odd ball, being 5 speed no live PTO. Dad did not need LPTO as our New Holland hay baler had its own engine. None of the other PTO operated implements needed live PTO . Dad always hire custom operators for larger jobs. Thank you.

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03-06-2014 08:01:57

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 Re: 651 Workmaster revisited in reply to 9n141, 03-05-2014 17:36:47  
I think you partly answered your own question. The tractor was purchased to fill the needs of your father. He chose the 5 speed over the 4 speed. Cost was surely a factor, he chose not to go opt for the live PTO that cost more and he did not need. Most 600 & 601 series were indeed 4 speeds as that was the base tractor and least costly. Many options remained including the 5"s 7"s 8"s, 9"s with many options that all added to the price. People chose what they needed and paid accordingly.

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03-06-2014 05:37:31

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 Re: 651 Workmaster revisited in reply to 9n141, 03-05-2014 17:36:47  
I've had a 660 for about 15 years and was a factory trained mechanic on them. The weak part with the 650 and 660 is the third and reverse gears wearing out too quickly compared to the four speed transmissions and can be pretty expensive to repair. I did mine soon after I got it. Jumping out of third and reverse. Cost an arm and a leg for parts and I did the labor. However parts are cheaper now that China and India are making transmission parts. Probably not as good though.

I like my 660.


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03-06-2014 08:09:24

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 Re: 651 Workmaster revisited in reply to ZANE, 03-06-2014 05:37:31  
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Doesn't sound like the OEM gears were anything to write home about ;-)


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03-06-2014 19:34:38

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 Re: 651 Workmaster revisited in reply to TheOldHokie, 03-06-2014 08:09:24  
Actually it's a design flaw in that the gears turn on the shaft splines and the spline eats away at the inside of the gear bore. Just like it had a reamer inside the gear bores. Then the gears begin to wobble on the shafts and nothing outside the transmission can hold it in gear when in third or reverse when that critical wear point is reached. You can almost predict how may hours it will take to get to the critical point of wear.


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03-06-2014 04:20:39

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 Re: 651 Workmaster revisited in reply to 9n141, 03-05-2014 17:36:47  
I have 650,841,850,860, 861, a Jubilee, 1962 - 4000 SOS,Ford 1210 compact, MF 135 D and Kubota 7100 for lawn mowing and light loader work ( my wife likes this one).The 651 is special to me and the boys. These are all the ones I managed to hide before our huge auction, last year, of tractors, equipment and antiques. I still have a lot of good parts that I will sell someday. The reason for the auction of ANTIQUES -I ARE ONE. Thanks for listening. All the best to everyone. Burt.

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03-06-2014 03:42:57

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 Re: 651 Workmaster revisited in reply to 9n141, 03-05-2014 17:36:47  
I never owned a 651 myself. There's 3 listed under 651 in the tractor photo section on this site and there may be more under ford 601. A lot of people don't know what model they have. If you were to tell them they have a 651/661, because you can see it's a 5 speed they would argue it's a 601 workmaster because that's what it sez on the hood.
I don't believe ford broke down the numbers into how 4 speeds and how many 5 speeds were made in the different models.
There are less 651/661 then 851/861.



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03-06-2014 03:15:38

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 Re: 651 Workmaster revisited in reply to 9n141, 03-05-2014 17:36:47  
not a 1, but I recently traded an 850, and I still own a 650.

I like the *5* models myself.

I don't need live pto for my tractor work.

*6* models I've owned, I usually disable the live pto so

my knee doesn't hit me in the chin when clutching that high pedal :) .

And of course, clutch jobs are/will be much cheaper on the 5's.

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03-05-2014 18:44:56

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 Re: 651 Workmaster revisited in reply to 9n141, 03-05-2014 17:36:47  
I always thought that was the difference in the 4 speed verse 5 speed.

that the 5 speed came with live pto

guess you can teach old dogs new tricks

but to me the live pto is worth its weight in gold: bush hog, corn picker, cycle mower, anything that needs a little more pto run time coverage without forward motion.

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03-05-2014 18:15:51

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 Re: 651 Workmaster revisited in reply to 9n141, 03-05-2014 17:36:47  
A friend of mine - used to be my neighbor, has a 651.
He sold out here in the City and was moving Up North. Asked me to find him a good tractor - a Ford, not an N.
I kept watch and found him a 651 with a Dearborn backblade for $3500 - delivered 200 miles away (but only cause the seller was already going that way).
Original fenders were a little rough, patched. But otherwise a nice clean tractor.
When I was looking to make the switch from an N I looked for a year and a half for a 660 or 661. Had more dough then and would have traveled anywhere.
Found LOTS of 64X a few 65X and any kind of 8XXs I wanted but was stuck on a 66X.
Never did find a clean one.
That's when I went Blue.

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