Anonymous-0
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I think I may have fried the elec. ignition or the coil as the key was left on after shutting off gas and left it to die. Has anyone else had this kind of a problem ? Pat. P.
ell, that is a guess, but no cupie doll for you! 1) we don't know if he has 6v/12v or 2) Pos or Neg ground. None of those with red/blk wires will output a voltage on the black wire. When 'on' those models pull the black wire to ground, just as points would pull to ground. Modules with a Black and Black/white pair of wires will output a voltage on the blk/wht wire when 'on'. Not many constants in life, just a lot of variables. And here I was looking for your step by step approach of replacing 1) coil & if no joy, replace 2) module, & if still no joy, replace 3) ign sw, and etc., etc., one 'step' at a time. Not exactly Bruce's systematic approach, but...............(quoted from post at 20:26:08 02/19/14)
I've never had to do it because I found mine to be completely reliable, increase performance and eliminate maintenance for 6 1/2 years.
But if I did, I would at least try this:
On a side mount distributer there are two wires going to the module. Put battery voltage to the red wire. Hook a volt meter to the black wire.
Pass a magnet past the module. Most any old magnet would do. When you pass by the module you should read momentary voltage on your vom.
Not sure about a front mount but I would suspect they could be tested in a similar way.
) right, you are not the guy to ask, but you eagerly give the 'advice' anyway!(quoted from post at 00:49:27 02/20/14) 1) I have said many times here that I'm not the guy to ask for
advice on electrical issues.
That's why i keep trying to bring people to understand the
benefits of 12V and EI.
Install them - or pay someone to if you don't know how - and
you'll likely not have to touch your electrics except to replace a
battery every 5 years.
2) I generally don't write lengthly treatises here so if you are
looking for a step by step approach to anything I'm not your
man for that either.
3) Time is on my side. As the EI haters here age it will be harder
and harder for for them to deal with those pesky front mounts
and they'll convert to something easier and more reliable.
4) I am very patient.
isappointed? I did not bad mouth EI!(quoted from post at 08:15:00 02/20/14) Well Jmor,
I'm disapointed as I always thought you were a little more objective than some of the others here.
There are few outspoken advocates willing to take the heat for EI here.
Were it not for us, this board would overwhelm anyone even hinting at converting with naysaying and even ridicule.
I don't claim to know much about electronics.
But I do know there is a place for EI on these old tractors.
Someone needs to tout it's advantages.
And if I don't say it who will?
(quoted from post at 02:18:21 02/20/14)) right, you are not the guy to ask, but you eagerly give the 'advice' anyway!(quoted from post at 00:49:27 02/20/14) 1) I have said many times here that I'm not the guy to ask for
advice on electrical issues.
That's why i keep trying to bring people to understand the
benefits of 12V and EI.
Install them - or pay someone to if you don't know how - and
you'll likely not have to touch your electrics except to replace a
battery every 5 years.
2) I generally don't write lengthly treatises here so if you are
looking for a step by step approach to anything I'm not your
man for that either.
3) Time is on my side. As the EI haters here age it will be harder
and harder for for them to deal with those pesky front mounts
and they'll convert to something easier and more reliable.
4) I am very patient.
2) we already saw your step by step; replace this, replace that, still not work, replace something else......
3) you are already older than many here!
4) points will out live you (& many of us)
Now, you know that I help all comers...points & EI........more than almost any one else on the EI, but I don't, as you do, make it my practice to take every opportunity to berate others who sincerely try to help those in need of a helping hand. When you have provided as much benefit to others as Bruce has, instead of trying to beat him up at every opportunity, maybe somebody will have some respect for you. I'm tired of you mini vendetta!
Meanwhile, if you need assistance with your EI (or points), I'll try to help you, too. Peace.
OH, you may. Pat didn't ask for it, UD has no need for it, so I didn't post it. Didn't you notice that this thread has not been about Pat's problem since the very first post?(quoted from post at 09:18:16 02/20/14)(quoted from post at 02:18:21 02/20/14)) right, you are not the guy to ask, but you eagerly give the 'advice' anyway!(quoted from post at 00:49:27 02/20/14) 1) I have said many times here that I'm not the guy to ask for
advice on electrical issues.
That's why i keep trying to bring people to understand the
benefits of 12V and EI.
Install them - or pay someone to if you don't know how - and
you'll likely not have to touch your electrics except to replace a
battery every 5 years.
2) I generally don't write lengthly treatises here so if you are
looking for a step by step approach to anything I'm not your
man for that either.
3) Time is on my side. As the EI haters here age it will be harder
and harder for for them to deal with those pesky front mounts
and they'll convert to something easier and more reliable.
4) I am very patient.
2) we already saw your step by step; replace this, replace that, still not work, replace something else......
3) you are already older than many here!
4) points will out live you (& many of us)
Now, you know that I help all comers...points & EI........more than almost any one else on the EI, but I don't, as you do, make it my practice to take every opportunity to berate others who sincerely try to help those in need of a helping hand. When you have provided as much benefit to others as Bruce has, instead of trying to beat him up at every opportunity, maybe somebody will have some respect for you. I'm tired of you mini vendetta!
Meanwhile, if you need assistance with your EI (or points), I'll try to help you, too. Peace.
May I broker a cease fire if not actual peace by reposting your helpful diagnostic diagram for the EI challenged (including UD). And might I also suggest:
[b:045ec4395f]Step 1:[/b:045ec4395f] Test and verify proper operation of the ignitor module.
No different than if you had mechanical contact breaker points in there :twisted:
ah! Think Pat lost interest & the rest of the crowd, having no tractor problems to attack, decided to sling cow patties at each other. :lol:(quoted from post at 09:55:42 02/20/14) so, with the advice given. any results of testing or observation yet?
(quoted from post at 09:51:15 02/20/14) TOH, you may. Pat didn't ask for it, UD has no need for it, so I didn't post it. Didn't you notice that this thread has not been about Pat's problem since the very first post?
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